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This Commerce to build the Kingdom thread and some of the exchanges amongst the ministers have discussed a number of ways that ministers of service can assist the people in seeking the kingdom of God, the right to be ruled by God.
This Commerce to build the Kingdom thread and some of the exchanges amongst the ministers have discussed a number of ways that ministers of service can assist the people in seeking the kingdom of God, which is the right to be ruled by God.


There is a lot of work that goes on behind the scenes that is only shared with ministers and "congregants".
There is a lot of work that goes on behind the scenes that is only shared with ministers and "congregants".
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Congregations of Record composed of Elders have no real "members".
Congregations of Record composed of Elders have no real "members".


Why should we call them congregants instead of members?
Why should we call them ''congregants'' instead of ''members''?


A congregant is simply exercising a right of free assembly and there are no legal bonds the control or restrict his or her liberty.
A congregant is simply exercising a right of ''free assembly'' and there are no legal bonds that control or restrict his or her liberty.


Men and women have sought the benefits of the world and been again entangled in the elements of bondage offered by the world.
Men and women have sought the benefits of the [[world]] and have been again entangled in the elements of bondage offered by the world.


They should not be free unless they repent. You will not be forgiven unless you forgive others and you cannot be free unless you free others.
They should not be free unless they repent. You will not be forgiven unless you forgive others and you cannot be free unless you free others. But you must also be faithful in loving others if you desire God to love you.


Christ showed a way to be free souls under God which requires gathering in His name, his character according to the righteousness of God.
That means you must attend to their true needs in righteous ways.
 
Christ showed a way to be free souls under God which requires gathering in His name, His character according to the righteousness of God.
You will not find Christ trying to save himself first.
You will not find Christ trying to save himself first.


So what is the Kingdom he preached and thousands of Jews were baptized into back at the beginning. Those who were baptized into one system under Christ were cast out of another system under men like the one Herod established with his baptism and Corban.
So what is the Kingdom he preached and thousands of Jews were baptized into some system back at the beginning. Those who were baptized into one system under Christ were cast out of another system under men like the one Herod established with his baptism and Corban.


Those Jews who said what is Jesus to us and went back to the cities of bondage with its civil benefits  were cast out of the kingdom of God. Or as Jesus said the kingdom was taken from them and given to another who would bear fruit.
Those Jews who said what is Jesus to us and went back to the cities of bondage with its civil benefits  were cast out of the kingdom of God. Or as Jesus said the kingdom was taken from them and given to another who would bear fruit.
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What we call today the early Church in general was God's government. It was composed of both a society and a community.
What we call today the early Church in general was God's government. It was composed of both a society and a community.


“Constantly bearing in mind that in entering into society individuals must give up a share of liberty to preserve the rest…" Andrew Jackson, March 4, 1833.  
"Constantly bearing in mind that in entering into society individuals must give up a share of liberty to preserve the rest…" Andrew Jackson, March 4, 1833.  


In the kingdom of God the people do not really enter a society but become a part of a community by their communion.
In the kingdom of God the people do not really enter a society but become a part of a community by their communion.
One definition of communion is of course   
 
One definition of ''communion'' is of course   
"the act of receiving the Eucharistic elements. "
"the act of receiving the Eucharistic elements. "



Revision as of 23:19, 15 November 2013

This Commerce to build the Kingdom thread and some of the exchanges amongst the ministers have discussed a number of ways that ministers of service can assist the people in seeking the kingdom of God, which is the right to be ruled by God.

There is a lot of work that goes on behind the scenes that is only shared with ministers and "congregants".

Congregations of Record composed of Elders have no real "members".

Why should we call them congregants instead of members?

A congregant is simply exercising a right of free assembly and there are no legal bonds that control or restrict his or her liberty.

Men and women have sought the benefits of the world and have been again entangled in the elements of bondage offered by the world.

They should not be free unless they repent. You will not be forgiven unless you forgive others and you cannot be free unless you free others. But you must also be faithful in loving others if you desire God to love you.

That means you must attend to their true needs in righteous ways.

Christ showed a way to be free souls under God which requires gathering in His name, His character according to the righteousness of God. You will not find Christ trying to save himself first.

So what is the Kingdom he preached and thousands of Jews were baptized into some system back at the beginning. Those who were baptized into one system under Christ were cast out of another system under men like the one Herod established with his baptism and Corban.

Those Jews who said what is Jesus to us and went back to the cities of bondage with its civil benefits were cast out of the kingdom of God. Or as Jesus said the kingdom was taken from them and given to another who would bear fruit.

What we call today the early Church in general was God's government. It was composed of both a society and a community.

"Constantly bearing in mind that in entering into society individuals must give up a share of liberty to preserve the rest…" Andrew Jackson, March 4, 1833.

In the kingdom of God the people do not really enter a society but become a part of a community by their communion.

One definition of communion is of course "the act of receiving the Eucharistic elements. "

The elements of the Eucharist was that it was a sharing of daily bread, taking what you have and freely giving it to others who are hungry. Christ talks of this giving and feeding over and over again.

This Eucharist involve several spiritual elements which are all a part of Christ's character. Matthew 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

It is the relationship born out of this communion with God and man in pure religion that is part o the keys to the kingdom.

The Church appointed by Christ is actually a society of service to that community. When you seek to enter the kingdom you enter nor by giving up a share of your liberty but only by casting some bread upon the water. Another way to say that is that you sacrifice some stuff to provide communion for your fellowman in righteous service.

“Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.” (Lu 11:52)

When I wrote the Covenants of the gods my Father reading the first chapter said I was write but they will not like me. He clearly meant the lawyers who did not like Jesus.

The kingdom of God has ministers who make themselves servants of God by serving the community who seek God as the ruler of their lives. That community must seek to love one another in real ways As wrote the PCM group concerning Caleb's post below: I was not on the call but I think it is important that the ministers of Christ's kingdom need to have the character of Christ.

If the Titanic was sinking do you think you would find Jesus in the life boats or do you think you would find him helping others in the life boats?

The guys who want out of the system first before they make arrangement for others, some times even their own families are probably not minister material. Christ was rich but made himself poor, had a life but laid it down for others.

http://www.preparingyou.com/wiki/Was_Jesus_rich

This is the spirit of his ministers is not about saving ourselves but about saving others and the people who congregate around that spirit with a similar attitude of sacrifice are hearing Christ.

Everyone on these groups need to select a congregation of record and become a part o that communion of Christ.

Those who hear his voice and come to His ways are His Sheep.

Everyone should be a congregant to an existing congregation of Record or begin to form a congregation of record by gathering with two or more and testifying that you are looking for the ministers of God. Early Christian did this by the thousands and were saved from much of the wrath to come.

It is no different today.