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How robotics will affect society?
How will robotics affect society?
{{#ev:youtube|be/Mt-Hqn9qiDs|300|right|Brookings institute  How robotics will affect the availability of employment and social benefits. [https://youtu.be/Mt-Hqn9qiDs Published on Oct 27, 2015.]  On October 26, the Center for Technology Innovation at Brookings hosted a forum to explore the impact of robots, artificial intelligence, and machine learning on the workforce and the provision of benefits traditionally supplied by—or in conjunction with—employers. 1:28:33}}
{{#ev:youtube|be/Mt-Hqn9qiDs|300|right|Brookings institute  How robotics will affect the availability of employment and social benefits. [https://youtu.be/Mt-Hqn9qiDs Published on Oct 27, 2015.]  On October 26, the Center for Technology Innovation at Brookings hosted a forum to explore the impact of robots, artificial intelligence, and machine learning on the workforce and the provision of benefits traditionally supplied by—or in conjunction with—employers. 1:28:33}}
Here the Brookings Institute gathered sharp, successful individuals who suggested that in the future over ¼ of males will be unemployed  and a  1/3 of jobs will be in health care.
Here the Brookings Institute gathered sharp, successful individuals who suggested that in the future over ¼ of males will be unemployed  and a  1/3 of jobs will be in health care.


Question:
Even though they seem to be capitalists they also seem to think that socialism is a good thing.
* Are there '''Ways to encourage voluntarism'''?
 
* But then talks about '''Guaranteed Basic Income''' for individual.
Can [[Capitalism]] and [[Socialism]] actually be compatible?
* Gives them individual bargaining power.
 
*: =Power? individual power or collective coercion??
At one point it is suggested that the passing of Social Security created a more robust society keeping people out of card board boxes.
* GBI VS '''GBC'''OON '''Guaranteed Basic Coercion''' of our neighbor
There are still people living in cardboard boxes and there were not all that many people starving in the ditch or living in cardboard boxes before Social Security.
 
Actually this is fantasy. Before Social Security and the Great Depression, the care of the poor including the elderly was a responsibility assumed primarily by the the family or the extended family. But when families were unable to help there were friends and neighbors. Beyond that there were also Churches and even organized private charity.
 
All levels of government together amounted to less than $200 million while private philanthropy was estimated to exceed a billion dollars<Ref> see Bureau of Census 1975, pp. 1120—28</Ref> not counting the family and friends which were the first line of defense in issues regarding social welfare. This gave an obvious incentive for individuals to cultivate and mend breaches both in families and friendships. [[Social virtues]] were naturally required for anyone and everyone that had hope of relief in time of need.
 
"Experts across a wide spectrum of political opinion now concede that Social Security's retirement program provides a poor return for a lifetime of tax payments..." [http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/1998/12/social-securitys-rate-of-return-a-reply-to-our-critics The Heritage Foundation] The total effective payroll tax has substantially increased. If the same amounts were  invested into only safe stocks  the return on such investment would be 10,000%. Even investment in a 1-year United States Treasury securities would have returned more than Social Security payments and if you had invested the same amount in 6-month CDs at actual market rates the return would even be grater. All this would give more incentive to savings and if you died before collecting them the funds could have reverted to the family through inheritance.
 
There would also be an incentive  to see to the prosperity of families and friends as your first line of defense. the extended family and immediate community members would be worth investing in again..
 
A question arose during the conference " Are there '''Ways to encourage voluntarism'''?
The truth is Social Security by its very nature discourages voluntarism which had been predominant in Pre-Social Security America.
 
Instead the speakers are suggesting to go from bad to worse.
They suggested a '''Guaranteed Basic Income''' for individual saying this gives the people individual bargaining power. What it does is empowers the collective to coerce what should have been charity in society.
 
* '''GBI VS '''GBC''','''
'''Guaranteed Basic Coercion''' of our neighbor
 
 
* Reward cannot come from a bureaucracies of coercion
* Reward cannot come from a bureaucracies of coercion
* Reward must come from the market (commerce) and Charity.
* Reward must come from the market (commerce) and Charity.
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liquid democracy.... directive democracy... among people who only have compassion for SELF-ADMINISTERED
liquid democracy.... directive democracy... among people who only have compassion for SELF-ADMINISTERED


He thinks Social Security created a more robust society keeping people out of card board boxes.
 


Volunteer - expand our desire to volunteer -REMOVE coercion – cared by loved one?touchscreen
Volunteer - expand our desire to volunteer -REMOVE coercion – cared by loved one?touchscreen
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Allow former drivers replaced by robots allowed to own the means of productions.
Allow former drivers replaced by robots allowed to own the means of productions.
  – suggested JUST allow the government to do it will be more efficient???? REALLY????
– suggested JUST allow the government to do it will be more efficient???? REALLY????




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Here the Brookings Institute gathered sharp, successful individuals who suggested that in the future over ¼ of males will be unemployed and a 1/3 of jobs will be in health care.

Even though they seem to be capitalists they also seem to think that socialism is a good thing.

Can Capitalism and Socialism actually be compatible?

At one point it is suggested that the passing of Social Security created a more robust society keeping people out of card board boxes. There are still people living in cardboard boxes and there were not all that many people starving in the ditch or living in cardboard boxes before Social Security.

Actually this is fantasy. Before Social Security and the Great Depression, the care of the poor including the elderly was a responsibility assumed primarily by the the family or the extended family. But when families were unable to help there were friends and neighbors. Beyond that there were also Churches and even organized private charity.

All levels of government together amounted to less than $200 million while private philanthropy was estimated to exceed a billion dollars[1] not counting the family and friends which were the first line of defense in issues regarding social welfare. This gave an obvious incentive for individuals to cultivate and mend breaches both in families and friendships. Social virtues were naturally required for anyone and everyone that had hope of relief in time of need.

"Experts across a wide spectrum of political opinion now concede that Social Security's retirement program provides a poor return for a lifetime of tax payments..." The Heritage Foundation The total effective payroll tax has substantially increased. If the same amounts were invested into only safe stocks the return on such investment would be 10,000%. Even investment in a 1-year United States Treasury securities would have returned more than Social Security payments and if you had invested the same amount in 6-month CDs at actual market rates the return would even be grater. All this would give more incentive to savings and if you died before collecting them the funds could have reverted to the family through inheritance.

There would also be an incentive to see to the prosperity of families and friends as your first line of defense. the extended family and immediate community members would be worth investing in again..

A question arose during the conference " Are there Ways to encourage voluntarism? The truth is Social Security by its very nature discourages voluntarism which had been predominant in Pre-Social Security America.

Instead the speakers are suggesting to go from bad to worse. They suggested a Guaranteed Basic Income for individual saying this gives the people individual bargaining power. What it does is empowers the collective to coerce what should have been charity in society.

  • GBI VS GBC,

Guaranteed Basic Coercion of our neighbor


  • Reward cannot come from a bureaucracies of coercion
  • Reward must come from the market (commerce) and Charity.
  • Charity can only come from the heart
poetry, youtube,
  • Barista at Starbucks- auto manufacturer..
  • reward individual initiative.
  • Just give money without strings ...Liberia vs Venice Beach
  • reward individual initiative INDIVIDUALY
  • WE MUST FIND WAYS ????
  • Coercion vs choice
  • entrepreneurs a person who organizes and operates a business or businesses, taking on greater than normal financial risks in order to do so.

early 19th century (denoting the director of a musical institution): from French, from entreprendre ‘undertake’ (see enterprise).

enterprisea project or undertaking, typically one that is difficult or requires effort.

a business or company.

WE must DECIDE WHAT KIND OF society? Let the people individually DECIDE WHAT KIND OF SOCIETY.

IN A COERCIVE SOCIETY YOU DO NOT GET TO DECIDE THE MORE WE INVEST BACK INTO OURSELVES. TOUCHSCREEN RATHER THAN MICROPHONE HE FOUND HARD????? GO TO COLLEGE TWICE AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT COST 100000 DOLLARS. YOU TUBE.... Does not want to make learning mandatory but ????? Private religion vs Public religion Religion redefined. Tesla car learning and teaching every car by feedback from every car... ???about robot overlords

What is a robot???? Are we robots??? Compassion - touchscreen - touch each others back to 1/3 of the people in healthcare are we making ourselves sick???? liquid democracy.... directive democracy... among people who only have compassion for SELF-ADMINISTERED


Volunteer - expand our desire to volunteer -REMOVE coercion – cared by loved one?touchscreen Return choice to people and you have much less to vote on... Force choice or choose choice.

I-phone was publicly funded but profits were privately returned because gov’s don’t use their money

Allow former drivers replaced by robots allowed to own the means of productions. – suggested JUST allow the government to do it will be more efficient???? REALLY????


Footnotes

  1. ↑ see Bureau of Census 1975, pp. 1120—28


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