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Is the kingdom of God a democracy? | Is the kingdom of God a democracy? | ||
Was it the robs? | If Moses and Jesus were in agreement then what was the essential elements of Judaism and Christianity where they agreed? | ||
Was it the religious artifacts and statues? | |||
Was it the symbols and icons? | And where did the Pharisees go wrong that they did not know Christ and actually rejected what he said about the [[Fathers]] of the earth, their [[Corban]], and the [[Weightier matters|"weightier matters"]] they should have been attending to. | ||
Was it the rituals? | |||
So if we ask about what they had in common: | |||
: Was it the robs? | |||
: Was it the religious artifacts and statues? | |||
: Was it the symbols and icons? | |||
: Was it the rituals and ceremonies? | |||
The answer seems to be no in all these things except "rituals and ceremonies" if we count the [[Corban]] of the early [[Church]] which was a [[Daily ministration]] provided by [[Faith]], [[Hope]] and [[Charity]] through the [[Perfect law of liberty]] rather than the [[Benefactors]] who exercised authority one over the other who were also those ''[[Fathers]] of the earth'' we were not to call Our father. | |||
Those "rituals and ceremonies" did not allow [[Christians]] who got the [[Baptism]] of John and Jesus and the early Church to use force to obtain what they needed. Their [[Communion]] or [[Eucharist]] produced [[Pure Religion]]. | |||
The [[Ten Commandments]] seem important? | The [[Ten Commandments]] seem important? | ||
They were [[The Ten Laws]] of a nation? | |||
And Jews and Christians were suppose to [[Keep the Commandments]] | |||
Jesus | And Jews and Christians were suppose to [[Keep the Commandments]] to obtain [[Eternal Life]]. | ||
Jesus seemed to sum up those [[Ten Commandments]] into [[Two commandments]] which should make things easy and simple if we are willing to wake up and see the truth.<Ref>[[Proverbs 6]]:1 ¶ My son, if thou be surety for thy friend, [if] thou hast stricken thy hand with a stranger, 2 Thou art snared with the words of thy mouth, thou art taken with the words of thy mouth. | |||
3 Do this now, my son, and deliver thyself, when thou art come into the hand of thy friend; go, humble thyself, and make sure thy friend. | |||
4 Give not sleep to thine eyes, nor slumber to thine eyelids. | |||
5 Deliver thyself as a roe from the hand of the hunter, and as a bird from the hand of the fowler. | |||
: 6 Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise: | |||
7 Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler, | |||
8 Provideth her meat in the summer, and gathereth her food in the harvest. | |||
9 How long wilt thou sleep, O sluggard? when wilt thou arise out of thy sleep? | |||
10 Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep: | |||
11 So shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth, and thy want as an armed man. | |||
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To tell you the truth it is hard to find any of the above denominations that actually expect anyone to keep all ten commandments in fact in some if not most cases those churches actually encourage people to break them as a matter of Church policy if not daily practice of the people. | To tell you the truth it is hard to find any of the above denominations that actually expect anyone to keep all ten commandments in fact in some, if not most, cases those churches actually encourage people to break them as a matter of Church policy, if not daily practice of the people. | ||
I am not talking about the [[Sabbath]]. Most people do not keep it anyway including people who think they keep the seventh day by this calendar or that. | |||
The [[Sabbath]] is not about a particular day of the week as much as it is about what you do the first part of the week. The [[Sabbath]] is about a way that keeps you out of debt.<Ref>Proverbs 22:7 ¶ The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower [is] servant to the lender. | |||
Proverbs 6:1 ¶ My son, if thou be [[Surety|surety]] for thy friend, [if] thou hast stricken thy hand with a stranger, | |||
Proverbs 11:15 ¶ He that is [[Surety|surety]]for a stranger shall smart [for it]: and he that hateth suretiship is sure. | |||
Proverbs 17:18 ¶ A man void of understanding striketh hands, [and] becometh [[Surety|surety]]in the presence of his friend. | |||
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What preacher is actually teaching the [[The Way|straight way]] of the Lord? | What preacher is actually teaching the [[The Way|straight way]] of the Lord? | ||
If they were then why have so many Christans become a [[Surety|surety]] for debt. Not just private debt but the debt of their whole nation. They literally have become Merchandise because of their [[Covetous practices]] contrary to those [[Ten Commandments]] Jesus, Paul, Peter and the apostles all warned us about. | |||
What [[Church]] is practicing [[Pure Religion]] unspotted with the [[benefits]] of the [[world]]? | What [[Church]] is practicing [[Pure Religion]] unspotted with the [[benefits]] of the [[world]]? | ||
Which of these | Which of these religious denominations are teaching the people that they should call no man upon the [[Father]] or even telling the people what that meant when Jesus used the term [[Father]] or the term which meant [[Conscripted fathers]]. | ||
If you find any churches where the minister is actually preaching the real [[Gospel of the kingdom]] out loud and striving to get others to do the same and wants to tell and do what the first century Church did | If you find any churches where the minister is actually preaching the real [[Gospel of the kingdom]] out loud and striving to get others to do the same as the early Church when they set up a [[Daily ministration]] for their needy then let me know. | ||
It seems that everyone of these denominations not only practice a mere token charity but as policy they tell the people to sign up for systems of [[Socialism]] that provide [[Benefits]] at the expense of their neighbors and even [[Curse children]] unborn with a [[socialist|socialist]] debt. | |||
Which denomination or Church wants to tell and do what the first century Church did? | |||
Which of them are teaching the people what the [[Christian conflict]] was really all about? | |||
They have some form of [[Religion]] but which one is practicing [[Pure Religion]]? | |||
The early church formed congregations and supplied aid through that network, for themselves and others. | |||
But still people say why form congregations? | But still people say why form congregations? | ||
Revision as of 04:11, 27 November 2015
Which Church should I go to?
| Denominations | Followers | |
|---|---|---|
| Catholicism | 1.2 billion | |
| Protestantism | 800 million | |
| Eastern Orthodoxy | 225–300 million | |
| Oriental Orthodoxy | 86 million | |
| Anglicanism | 85 million | |
| Restorationism and Nontrinitarianism | 41 million | |
| Church of the East - | 0.6 million |
Is the kingdom of God a democracy?
If Moses and Jesus were in agreement then what was the essential elements of Judaism and Christianity where they agreed?
And where did the Pharisees go wrong that they did not know Christ and actually rejected what he said about the Fathers of the earth, their Corban, and the "weightier matters" they should have been attending to.
So if we ask about what they had in common:
- Was it the robs?
- Was it the religious artifacts and statues?
- Was it the symbols and icons?
- Was it the rituals and ceremonies?
The answer seems to be no in all these things except "rituals and ceremonies" if we count the Corban of the early Church which was a Daily ministration provided by Faith, Hope and Charity through the Perfect law of liberty rather than the Benefactors who exercised authority one over the other who were also those Fathers of the earth we were not to call Our father.
Those "rituals and ceremonies" did not allow Christians who got the Baptism of John and Jesus and the early Church to use force to obtain what they needed. Their Communion or Eucharist produced Pure Religion.
The Ten Commandments seem important?
They were The Ten Laws of a nation?
And Jews and Christians were suppose to Keep the Commandments to obtain Eternal Life.
Jesus seemed to sum up those Ten Commandments into Two commandments which should make things easy and simple if we are willing to wake up and see the truth.[1]
To tell you the truth it is hard to find any of the above denominations that actually expect anyone to keep all ten commandments in fact in some, if not most, cases those churches actually encourage people to break them as a matter of Church policy, if not daily practice of the people.
I am not talking about the Sabbath. Most people do not keep it anyway including people who think they keep the seventh day by this calendar or that.
The Sabbath is not about a particular day of the week as much as it is about what you do the first part of the week. The Sabbath is about a way that keeps you out of debt.[2]
What preacher is actually teaching the straight way of the Lord?
If they were then why have so many Christans become a surety for debt. Not just private debt but the debt of their whole nation. They literally have become Merchandise because of their Covetous practices contrary to those Ten Commandments Jesus, Paul, Peter and the apostles all warned us about.
What Church is practicing Pure Religion unspotted with the benefits of the world?
Which of these religious denominations are teaching the people that they should call no man upon the Father or even telling the people what that meant when Jesus used the term Father or the term which meant Conscripted fathers.
If you find any churches where the minister is actually preaching the real Gospel of the kingdom out loud and striving to get others to do the same as the early Church when they set up a Daily ministration for their needy then let me know.
It seems that everyone of these denominations not only practice a mere token charity but as policy they tell the people to sign up for systems of Socialism that provide Benefits at the expense of their neighbors and even Curse children unborn with a socialist debt.
Which denomination or Church wants to tell and do what the first century Church did?
Which of them are teaching the people what the Christian conflict was really all about?
They have some form of Religion but which one is practicing Pure Religion?
The early church formed congregations and supplied aid through that network, for themselves and others.
But still people say why form congregations? They are comfortable, they are too busy, they are often complacent. Christ had the same problem.
People make excuses. That said maybe God is leading them not to join with us or gather in the pattern or maybe it is not God that keeps them from gathering.
We are small now and few in number. Email groups really understand the kingdom nor the Gospel of the kingdom.
There are lots of churches out there that make people feel good, offer personal fellowship, and do teach some of the truths of Christ. But to only teach part of that truth is a lie. To depend on Benefactors is not Pure Religion and is the antitheses of what Christ called us to do. Most Christians and the Churches they go to and support are comfortable with that. They do look to the government of men and the Fathers of the earth despite Jesus words about them.
The word Puritan was first coined in the 1560s as a derisive term for those who advocated more purity in worship and doctrine. There was little welfare in those days except through the churches. Today through Covetous Practices people are again entangled in the Elements of the world like in the days of the early Christian conflict.
Many people are Biting one another and yet they go to churches where they think the fellowship they have is like that taught by Christ but in truth they are Workers of Iniquity. But they think we are nice, we believe in Jesus, we are Christians... but are they?
Are they deceived? Are these preachers really preaching the Gospel of the kingdom? The real Jesus?
I think not.
Others are beginning to think the same and they are gathering together.
Why not come together?
We are far apart that gives us room to grow.
We are seeking the kingdom.
We are meeting. We are doing.
What did Jesus say to those who were not workers of iniquity.
Matthew 25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
Are you a "sovereign unto Yahweh"?
Didn't your parents get benefit from government of the world while deducting you personally on their taxes?
Didn't you go to public school and your neighbors expense?
Have you not sacrificed on civil altars of the government and even obtained benefits from those men who called themselves Benefactors?
Did you provide for all the needs of your parents honoring them according to the Ten Commandments or did they have to go to the government of the world to sustain themselves in their old age?
So if any of these Covetous Practices pertains to you can you say "him alone" in relation to who is your God? So who has been the gods of your life which is why Paul asks what agreement you have with those who believe in force rather than love?
We have a choice between "God given rights" and "god given privileges".
Including the God given rights to contract. Have the people not contracted and obtained benefits from the gods many of government?
Is it not written to make no contracts?
Does not our disobedience take us out of the way?
This is why he says "seek", "strive" , "persevere"...
If we come in His name would we not be laying down our lives to save others?
- ↑ Proverbs 6:1 ¶ My son, if thou be surety for thy friend, [if] thou hast stricken thy hand with a stranger, 2 Thou art snared with the words of thy mouth, thou art taken with the words of thy mouth.
3 Do this now, my son, and deliver thyself, when thou art come into the hand of thy friend; go, humble thyself, and make sure thy friend.
4 Give not sleep to thine eyes, nor slumber to thine eyelids.
5 Deliver thyself as a roe from the hand of the hunter, and as a bird from the hand of the fowler.
- 6 Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise:
- ↑ Proverbs 22:7 ¶ The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower [is] servant to the lender. Proverbs 6:1 ¶ My son, if thou be surety for thy friend, [if] thou hast stricken thy hand with a stranger, Proverbs 11:15 ¶ He that is suretyfor a stranger shall smart [for it]: and he that hateth suretiship is sure. Proverbs 17:18 ¶ A man void of understanding striketh hands, [and] becometh suretyin the presence of his friend.