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For those with limited understanding and interest in Bitcoin, it is doubly unfortunate when their only exposure to bitcoin is through interviews like the one between Roger Ver and Tucker Carlson (a self-admitted tech neophyte). The purpose of this page is to help negate the confusion sewed by Roger Ver about Bitcoin. | For those with limited understanding and interest in Bitcoin, it is doubly unfortunate when their only exposure to bitcoin is through interviews like the one between Roger Ver and Tucker Carlson (a self-admitted tech neophyte). The purpose of this page is to help negate the confusion sewed by Roger Ver about Bitcoin. | ||
This same spirit of confusion is sewn by such luminaries as Whitney Webb and Catherine Austin Fitts. While they offer tons of great information, their shallow understanding of Bitcoin allows them to associate it with the darkness of things like CBDCs rather than as the fierce | This same spirit of confusion is sewn by such luminaries as Whitney Webb and Catherine Austin Fitts. While they offer tons of great information, their shallow understanding of Bitcoin allows them to associate it with the darkness of things like CBDCs rather than as the fierce tool of freedom. Wallowing in that confusion and darkness keeps multitudes from discovering and working toward the exciting potential offered by Bitcoin. In the meantime, those multitudes continue in the poverty and comfort provided by the fiat system where the value of their labor (and charitable donations) is melted away at roughly 10% per year. | ||
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The objective truth or falsity of Ver’s account is largely subordinate to the larger more salient objection which is that it is literally impossible to “hijack bitcoin.” <br><br>You can can create a copy of it with different rules - called a hard fork - which is what Ver did. The free… <a href="https://t.co/m04HdKgdYs">https://t.co/m04HdKgdYs</a></p>— Bit Paine ⚡️ (@BitPaine) <a href="https://twitter.com/BitPaine/status/1898227687107576089?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 8, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> | |||
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m quoted in Roger Ver’s book, out of context of course. Context being the big blockers were saying fees need to be lowered for people making less than $2 a day - this is pre-Lightning.<br><br>He’s really such a dishonest snake. <a href="https://t.co/rSynLEybLT">pic.twitter.com/rSynLEybLT</a></p>— Samson Mow (@Excellion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/1901346608996102487?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 16, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> | |||
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This video queued to the point in the show where the subject of Roger Ver is brought up. All speakers are libertarian-leaning and came to bitcoin before the split with Roger | ---- | ||
This video queued to the point in the show where the subject of Roger Ver is brought up. All speakers are libertarian-leaning and came to bitcoin before the split with Roger. All respected Roger at the time and struggled with the issues around the split. Their insights offer a perspective that is quite different than the one painted by Roger.</br> | |||
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This entire podcast provides a firsthand account—and a very different perspective—of the blocksize war period where Roger Ver claims that Bitcoin was compromised.</br> | |||
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The podcast above mentions a previous debate about the hijacking of bitcoin. It is DISCOURAGED that people listen to this debate. It is huge investment of time and the entire argument is pedantic and unnecessarily confusing to bitcoin newbies. Confusion only causes further delay in getting started. It is obvious in the debate that the issue is still confusing even for otherwise like-minded people who lived through it. The bottom line is that the market decided: Bitcoin won, it is working very well today, and remains the best alternative for a monetary system independent of any specific government. Nevertheless, for the sake of fairness and full disclosure, the debate links are provided here: | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FyjziuSnos Hijacking Bitcoin Debate - YouTube] | |||
* [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/chat-127-the-hijacking-bitcoin-debate-liberty-lockdown/id1359544516?i=1000691830982 Hijacking Bitcoin Debate - Apple Podcast] | |||
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Popular libertarian and survivalist podcaster Jack Spirko was around during the blocksize wars in which Roger Ver didn't get his way. Jack and guest Guy Swann shed light on that period and offer a different perspective than the one painted by Roger. Video queued to start at the Roger Ver discussion.</br> | |||
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The price of Roger Ver's Bitcoin Cash in terms of Bitcoin speaks volumes as to why Roger is so resentful.</br> | |||
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'''The Blocksize War''' was the first exhaustive book written following the subject matter and offers a more objective overview than Roger Ver's ghost-written, sour-grapes, torpedo of the present version of Bitcoin that survived the war. | |||
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Latest revision as of 21:57, 16 March 2025
For those with limited understanding and interest in Bitcoin, it is doubly unfortunate when their only exposure to bitcoin is through interviews like the one between Roger Ver and Tucker Carlson (a self-admitted tech neophyte). The purpose of this page is to help negate the confusion sewed by Roger Ver about Bitcoin.
This same spirit of confusion is sewn by such luminaries as Whitney Webb and Catherine Austin Fitts. While they offer tons of great information, their shallow understanding of Bitcoin allows them to associate it with the darkness of things like CBDCs rather than as the fierce tool of freedom. Wallowing in that confusion and darkness keeps multitudes from discovering and working toward the exciting potential offered by Bitcoin. In the meantime, those multitudes continue in the poverty and comfort provided by the fiat system where the value of their labor (and charitable donations) is melted away at roughly 10% per year.
The objective truth or falsity of Ver’s account is largely subordinate to the larger more salient objection which is that it is literally impossible to “hijack bitcoin.”
You can can create a copy of it with different rules - called a hard fork - which is what Ver did. The free… https://t.co/m04HdKgdYs— Bit Paine ⚡️ (@BitPaine) March 8, 2025
I’m quoted in Roger Ver’s book, out of context of course. Context being the big blockers were saying fees need to be lowered for people making less than $2 a day - this is pre-Lightning.
He’s really such a dishonest snake. pic.twitter.com/rSynLEybLT— Samson Mow (@Excellion) March 16, 2025
This video queued to the point in the show where the subject of Roger Ver is brought up. All speakers are libertarian-leaning and came to bitcoin before the split with Roger. All respected Roger at the time and struggled with the issues around the split. Their insights offer a perspective that is quite different than the one painted by Roger.
This entire podcast provides a firsthand account—and a very different perspective—of the blocksize war period where Roger Ver claims that Bitcoin was compromised.
The podcast above mentions a previous debate about the hijacking of bitcoin. It is DISCOURAGED that people listen to this debate. It is huge investment of time and the entire argument is pedantic and unnecessarily confusing to bitcoin newbies. Confusion only causes further delay in getting started. It is obvious in the debate that the issue is still confusing even for otherwise like-minded people who lived through it. The bottom line is that the market decided: Bitcoin won, it is working very well today, and remains the best alternative for a monetary system independent of any specific government. Nevertheless, for the sake of fairness and full disclosure, the debate links are provided here:
Popular libertarian and survivalist podcaster Jack Spirko was around during the blocksize wars in which Roger Ver didn't get his way. Jack and guest Guy Swann shed light on that period and offer a different perspective than the one painted by Roger. Video queued to start at the Roger Ver discussion.
The price of Roger Ver's Bitcoin Cash in terms of Bitcoin speaks volumes as to why Roger is so resentful.
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The Blocksize War was the first exhaustive book written following the subject matter and offers a more objective overview than Roger Ver's ghost-written, sour-grapes, torpedo of the present version of Bitcoin that survived the war.
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