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| V1 These ''words'' (tauta, ταuτα) <Ref name="tauta">{{5023}}</Ref> spake Jesus about the [[Logos]], which is the word, and the [[world]], eternal life, and ownership by Him and by God because of a mutual judgment and ''honoring'' (δοξάζω, doxazo)<Ref name="doxazo">{{1392}}</Ref> from ''doxa'' which is an ''opinion'', a ''view'', a ''judgment'' like the ''[[logos]]'' which is the [[right reason]]ing of the ''Creator'', that ''Unmoved Mover''. To mutually honour one another according to [[divine will]].
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| V2  Jesus was given "[[exousia]]" which is the ''power'' of [[choice]]<Ref name="exousia">{{1849}}</Ref> over all flesh. We see the same word in [[Romans 13]].
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| V3  This [[eternal life|life eternal]] includes ''knowing'' what is the ''true<Ref name="alethinos">{{228}}</Ref>  God''.
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| V4  <span style="color:red">'''I have glorified<Ref name="doxazo">{{1392}}</Ref> thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.'''</span>
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| '''V5'''  There is a request that the Father <span style="color:red">''' glorify<Ref name="doxazo">{{1392}}</Ref>  thou me with thine own self with the glory<Ref name="doxa">{{1391}}</Ref> which I had with thee before the [[world]] was.'''</span> The American King James Version makes the English easier to follow: "And now, O Father, glorify you me with your own self with the glory which I had with you before the [[world]] was." At least two words should be understood. What does it mean to glorify? And what [[world]] was created?
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| '''V6''' Jesus goes onto say that He has <span style="color:red">'''manifested thy '''[[name]]''' unto the men which thou gavest me out of the [[world]]:'''</span> This is the same term for [[world]] we saw in verse 5 and throughout this chapter. These men were given to Jesus by God and "<span style="color:red">'''and they have kept thy [[logos]].'''</span>" What does it mean if these men were born and lived on the planet but that these men were not of or ''from the world'' ( ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου, ifanerosa sou t snoma togs anthropi ohs adokas moi ek tou kosmou)? Could it be that they were not members of the [[Corban]] of the [[Pharisees]] and [[Herod]], nor of [[Rome]].Could this have to do with the [[apostles]] being [[idiotes]]?<Ref name="Anothking">{{Anothking}}</Ref>
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| '''V11''' ¶  <span style="color:red">'''in the [[world]]... keep through thine own [[name]] ... they may be one, as we are.'''</span>
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| "Jesus saith unto him, <span style="color:red">''' [[I am]]<Ref name="iam">{{iam}}</Ref> [[the way]], the [[truth]]<Ref name="thetruth">{{thetruth}}</Ref>, and the [[life]]:<Ref name="thelife">{{thelife}}</Ref> no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.'''</span>" [[John 14]]:6
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| V12 "<span style="color:red">''' While ... in the [[world]], I kept them in thy [[name]]'''</span>".
: [[Matthew 20]]:15  Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good? 
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| V14 Because they have the  [[logos]] which is the [[right reason]] of God; and the [[world]] hath hated them because of jealousy and envy and they live in darkness and hate the light.<Ref name="darkened">{{darkened}}</Ref> 
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| V15 He prays the remain in the [[world]] but not partakers of the [[evil]] of the [[world]]. What is the world? What us the [[Sin|sin]] and [[evil]] of the [[world]]? What was the [[Sin of Sodom]]? What is [[legal charity]] but the [[covetous practices]] of the [[world]]?
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| V16  Ministers should ''not be of the [[world]]''. Jesus was another king.<Ref name="Anothking">{{Anothking}}</Ref>
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| V17 To '''Sanctify<Ref name="hagiazo">{{37}}</Ref> them through thy [[truth]]: thy [[Logos|word]]<Ref name="logos">{{3056}}</Ref> is [[truth]].
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| V18  God the Gather sent Jesus into the [[world]] and He sent His disciples into the [[world]] not to be of it or participate in the [[covetous practices]] of its [[legal charity]] nor eat at the [[tables]] of the [[Unrighteous mammon|unrighteous mammon]] but to become the [[social safety net]] of His [[Righteousness|righteousness]] through the [[Corban of Christ]] by making the people sit down in the [[tens]] bound by [[love]] for one another.
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| V19  What does it mean to be [[Separate|sanctified]]?<Ref name="hagiazo">{{37}}</Ref> It means to be separate. <Br>What does it mean to be sanctified<Ref name="hagiazo">{{37}}</Ref> through the [[truth]]?
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|'''V20''' Believe on Christ because (tou logou) the word<Ref name="logos">{{3056}}</Ref> is in them. How does that [[Logos]]<Ref name="logos">{{3056}}</Ref> get in them except by the [[Holy Spirit]]?
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| V21  If we are not "one" we are not one with the [[Father]]. [[Factions at the altar]] and [[Denominations|denominations]] are an indictment.
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| V22  What is this word [[Glory|glory]]?<Ref name="doxa">{{1391}}</Ref> ''Doxa'' is ''an opinion, a view, a judgment''. It is from the verb ''dokeo''<Ref name="dokeo">{{1380}}</Ref> to think. Doxazo<Ref name="doxazo">{{1392}}</Ref> is another verb meaning ''to think'' or ''have an opinion''.
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|  V23  What you profess, teach, and [[doeth]] must be in accordance and in conformity with the '''opinions''' of Christ or you are '''not abiding in Christ''' nor he in you. 
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| In the phrase "where I <[[1473]]> am <[[1510]]> (ὅπου εἰμὶ ἐγὼ) or opou eimi egō, we find eimi as a prolonged form of a primary and defective verb; I exist which is used only when emphatic along with the word egō (first person nominative singular) which a part of the meaning of "one", which is existed before the ''foundation of the [[world]]'' which is the constitutional systems of governments of men.
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|25  Their is the "[[patronus]]" of [[Rome]] and there is the [[righteous]] [[Father]] of the [[Kingdom of God]], the [[world]] hath not known. The latter who was first should be known by us and we must live [[The Way]] of His righteousness.
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|26  Declared unto them His [[name]] and glorious opinion according to the Logos of Christ is going to be seen in our love for one another.
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== The Priestly Prayer ==

1 ¶  These words<Ref name="tauta">{{5023}}</Ref> spake Jesus,<Ref name="thingsspoken">{{thingsspoken}}</Ref> and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, <span style="color:red">'''[[Father]], the hour is come; glorify<Ref name="doxazo">{{1392}}</Ref> thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify<Ref name="doxazo">{{1392}}</Ref> thee:'''</span>

2  <span style="color:red">'''As thou hast given him power(''[[exousia]]'')<Ref name="exousia">{{1849}}</Ref> over all flesh, that he should give [[eternal life]] to as many as thou hast given him.'''</span>

3  <span style="color:red">'''And this is [[eternal life|life eternal]], that they might know thee the only true<Ref name="alethinos">{{228}}</Ref>  God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.'''</span>

4  <span style="color:red">'''I have glorified<Ref name="doxazo">{{1392}}</Ref> thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.'''</span>

5  <span style="color:red">'''And now, O [[Father]], glorify<Ref name="doxazo">{{1392}}</Ref>  thou me with thine own self with the glory<Ref name="doxa">{{1391}}</Ref> which I had with thee before the [[world]] was.'''</span>

=== Manifested thy name===

6 ¶  <span style="color:red">'''I have manifested thy [[name]] unto the men which thou gavest me out of the [[world]]<Ref name="Anothking">{{Anothking}}</Ref><Ref name="Notworld">{{Notworld}}</Ref>: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy [[logos|word]].<Ref name="logos">{{3056}}</Ref>'''</span>

7  <span style="color:red">'''Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.'''</span>

8  <span style="color:red">'''For I have given unto them the words(ῥῆμα, rhema)<Ref name="rhema">{{4487}}</Ref> which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.'''</span>

9  <span style="color:red">'''I pray for them: I pray not for the [[world]], but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.'''</span>

10  <span style="color:red">'''And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I <[[1473]]> am <[[1510]]> glorified<Ref name="doxazo">{{1392}}</Ref> in them.'''</span>

== In the world ==

11 ¶  <span style="color:red">'''And now I <[[1473]]> am <[[1510]]><Ref name="iam">{{iam}}</Ref>   no more in the [[world]], but these are in the [[world]], and I come to thee. Holy [[Father]], keep through thine own [[name]] those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.'''</span>

12 <span style="color:red">''' While I was with them in the [[world]], I kept them in thy [[name]]: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the <Ref name="logos">{{3056}}</Ref> ; that the scripture might be fulfilled.'''</span>

13  <span style="color:red">'''And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the [[world]], that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.'''</span>

14  <span style="color:red">'''I have given them thy [[logos|word]]<Ref name="logos">{{3056}}</Ref>; and the [[world]] hath hated them, because they are not of the [[world]], even as I <[[1473]]> am <[[1510]]><Ref name="iam">{{iam}}</Ref>   not of the [[world]].'''</span>

15  <span style="color:red">'''I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the [[world]], but that thou shouldest keep them from the [[evil]].'''</span>

16  <span style="color:red">'''They are not of the [[world]]<Ref name="Anothking">{{Anothking}}</Ref>, even as I <[[1473]]> am <[[1510]]><Ref name="iam">{{iam}}</Ref>   not of the [[world]]<Ref name="Anothking">{{Anothking}}</Ref>.'''</span>

== Sanctify through truth ==

17 ¶  <span style="color:red">'''Sanctify<Ref name="hagiazo">{{37}}</Ref> them through thy [[truth]]: thy [[Logos|word]]<Ref name="logos">{{3056}}</Ref> is [[truth]].

18  <span style="color:red">'''As thou hast sent me into the [[world]], even so have I also sent them into the [[world]].

19  <span style="color:red">'''And for their sakes I sanctify<Ref name="hagiazo">{{37}}</Ref> myself, that they also might be sanctified<Ref name="hagiazo">{{37}}</Ref> through the [[truth]].'''</span>

=== Pray for them who shall believe===

20 ¶  <span style="color:red">'''Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their [[Logos|word]];<Ref name="logos">{{3056}}</Ref> '''</span>

21  <span style="color:red">'''That they all may be one; as thou, [[Father]], art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.'''</span>

22  <span style="color:red">'''And the glory<Ref name="doxa">{{1391}}</Ref> which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:'''</span>

23  <span style="color:red">'''I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the [[world]] may know that thou hast sent  me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.'''</span>

=== They also ===

24 ¶  <span style="color:red">'''[[Father]], I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I <[[1473]]> am <[[1510]]> ; that they may behold my glory<Ref name="doxa">{{1391}}</Ref>, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the [[world]].'''</span>

25  <span style="color:red">'''O [[righteous]] [[Father]]<Ref name="fatherruler">{{fatherruler}}</Ref>, the [[world]] hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.'''</span>

26  <span style="color:red">'''And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the [[love]] wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.'''</span>






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