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The last word in the text is ''musar''<Ref name="musar">{{04148}}</Ref> from the word ''yasar''<Ref name="yasar">{{03256}}</Ref> meaning "to discipline, chasten, admonish". Yasar is YodShemachReish while musar is MemYodShemachReish in the [[Hebrew]].
 
The last word in the text is ''musar''<Ref name="musar">{{04148}}</Ref> from the word ''yasar''<Ref name="yasar">{{03256}}</Ref> meaning "to discipline, chasten, admonish". Yasar is YodShemachReish while musar is MemYodShemachReish in the [[Hebrew]].
  
The word ''rod'' only appears as ShinBeitTet[[Vav]] in this one verse but their is another form that ends in Vav in [[Judges 21]]:24 where we see the word ''ləšiḇṭōw'' לְשִׁבְט֖וֹ with the letters [[Lamed]]ShinBeitTet[[Vav]] in the verse meaning something like returning "to his tribe" or ''taking their place among the branches or rods of the tree of their tribe''.
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The word ''rod'' only appears as ShinBeitTet[[Vav]] in this one verse but their is another form that ends in [[Vav]] in [[Judges 21]]:24 where we see the word ''ləšiḇṭōw'' לְשִׁבְט֖וֹ with the letters [[Lamed]]ShinBeitTet[[Vav]] in the verse meaning something like returning "to his tribe" or ''taking their place among the branches or rods of the tree of their tribe''.
  
 
: "And the children of Israel departed thence at that time, every man '''to his tribe''' and to his family, and they went out from thence every man to his inheritance."  [[Judges 21]]:24  
 
: "And the children of Israel departed thence at that time, every man '''to his tribe''' and to his family, and they went out from thence every man to his inheritance."  [[Judges 21]]:24  
  
 
This idea of returning everyone to their family and to their inheritance was part of the essential message of the Jubilee and the coming of the Messiah. The law of God is built into God's creation and through the power of the Love that created it and gives life. To stray from those principles is to stray from life and the [[righteousness]] of God.
 
This idea of returning everyone to their family and to their inheritance was part of the essential message of the Jubilee and the coming of the Messiah. The law of God is built into God's creation and through the power of the Love that created it and gives life. To stray from those principles is to stray from life and the [[righteousness]] of God.
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This is what the [[faith]] of [[Abraham]] and the nation of [[Israel]] was all about. The the ministers of Christ like the [[Levites]] before them served the ''tents of the congregations'' as the people were willing to gather and serve one another. The same was true of the congregations of [[Christ]] who gathered in [[tens]] as he [[commanded]] to provide a [[daily ministration]] of [[pure religion]] through [[faith]], [[hope]], and [[charity]] providing the ''wages of righteousness'' through [[love]]. Seeking that government of God called the kingdom of God instead of the [[wages of unrighteousness]] of the world requires that we [[repent]] of the [[covetous practices]] of [[force]], [[fear]], and [[fealty]].
  
 
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If we go back to the word ''chasteneth'' in [[Proverbs 13]]:24 we see that it is normally defined ''instruction'' and ''correction''.  
 
If we go back to the word ''chasteneth'' in [[Proverbs 13]]:24 we see that it is normally defined ''instruction'' and ''correction''.  
  
The word טבשׁ shebet we see as ''rod'' has to do with the growth of a branch of a tree among many branches. All branches growing toward the light and each one growing in its own place guided by the example and firmness of others.
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The word טבשׁ ''shebet'' we see as ''rod'' has to do with the growth of a branch of a tree among many branches. All branches growing toward the light and each one growing in its own place guided by the example and firmness of others.
  
 
The ''rod'' of a shepherd is not used to beat the sheep into submission. It is a ''rod'' of guidance and direction to encourage the [[The Way|straight and safe path]].<Ref>Psalms 23:4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou [art] with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.</Ref>  
 
The ''rod'' of a shepherd is not used to beat the sheep into submission. It is a ''rod'' of guidance and direction to encourage the [[The Way|straight and safe path]].<Ref>Psalms 23:4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou [art] with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.</Ref>  
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* '''"Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it."''' [[Proverbs 22]]:6  
 
* '''"Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it."''' [[Proverbs 22]]:6  
  
The word "train up" is from a [[Hebrew]] word<Ref> 02596 ^ךנח^ chanak \@khaw-nak’\@ a primitive root; v;  AV-dedicate 4, train up 1; 5
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The word "train up" is from a [[Hebrew]] word<Ref>{{02596}}</Ref> that is more often translated "dedicate". People do not know what it means to be a parent.
: 1) to train, dedicate, inaugurate
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::          1a2) to dedicate</Ref> that is more often translated "dedicate". People do not know what it means to be a parent.
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Being a parent is a full time job that requires complete dedication of time and resources. While as a parent I had a right to spank my children I almost never found any need to do so.
 
Being a parent is a full time job that requires complete dedication of time and resources. While as a parent I had a right to spank my children I almost never found any need to do so.

Latest revision as of 02:57, 9 May 2021

If someone has to spank their child that is often a sign that they have already failed or neglected their child somewhere or somehow as a parent.

The Rod

In order for us to follow the mission of Christ we need to be in one accord with Christ and therefore with each other. The Pharisees thought they were in accord with Moses just as many people thinking they are Christians today believe they are in accord with Christ... but are not.

If we have Christ in us we will seek to follow The Way of Christ naturally. Therefore we must actually love the real Christ and not one made up by men who creep into homes deceiving, seducing and snaring people that may have a desire to follow sinful or covetous ways.[1].

True love, challenges our hearts to sacrifice ourselves in service to Christ and for those who seek Him. This love is like the love of a parent for their children and they may also challenge their own children to love others in righteousness.

  • Spare the rod spoil the child comes from Proverbs 13:24 "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes."

This word rod is from טבשׁ shebet[2] ShemBeitTet from an unused root probably meaning to branch off; and is normally translated tribe some 140 times but also rod 34 times.

What is the meaning or sense of a word that means both rod and tribe?

The appearance of the word rod here includes the letter Vav. This is the only place we see this form of ShinBeitTetVav.

The Vav at the end of the word may suggest a connection to the next word or following context for a fuller meaning of the BeitNun but here is seen as BeitNunVav. This word for son is followed by the word וְ֝אֹהֲב֗וֹ VavAlefHeyBeitVav which would commonly appear as AlefHeyBeit meaning "to love".

The next word in the original test[3] is shachar[4] שָׁחַר which is said to mean "to look early or diligently for". But again in this text of Proverbs 13:24 only the word shachar[4] has an additional Vav שִֽׁחֲרֹ֥ו.

The last word in the text is musar[5] from the word yasar[6] meaning "to discipline, chasten, admonish". Yasar is YodShemachReish while musar is MemYodShemachReish in the Hebrew.

The word rod only appears as ShinBeitTetVav in this one verse but their is another form that ends in Vav in Judges 21:24 where we see the word ləšiḇṭōw לְשִׁבְט֖וֹ with the letters LamedShinBeitTetVav in the verse meaning something like returning "to his tribe" or taking their place among the branches or rods of the tree of their tribe.

"And the children of Israel departed thence at that time, every man to his tribe and to his family, and they went out from thence every man to his inheritance." Judges 21:24

This idea of returning everyone to their family and to their inheritance was part of the essential message of the Jubilee and the coming of the Messiah. The law of God is built into God's creation and through the power of the Love that created it and gives life. To stray from those principles is to stray from life and the righteousness of God.

This is what the faith of Abraham and the nation of Israel was all about. The the ministers of Christ like the Levites before them served the tents of the congregations as the people were willing to gather and serve one another. The same was true of the congregations of Christ who gathered in tens as he commanded to provide a daily ministration of pure religion through faith, hope, and charity providing the wages of righteousness through love. Seeking that government of God called the kingdom of God instead of the wages of unrighteousness of the world requires that we repent of the covetous practices of force, fear, and fealty.



Israel as a nation was not to be bound together by schemes like the Golden calf nor by force. It was to be bound together by love. The same is true of the early Church. And certainly should be true for the family.

Another word הטמ matteh[7] MemTetHey composed of different letters is also translated tribe 182 times, rod 52 times, staff 15 times, staves once. It is said to be from the word הטנ natah NunTetHey which means to stretch out or turn. Letters in Hebrew have meanings that can help us understand the full meaning of a word. See Sophistry.

A parent by nature is a giant to a child and by nature a child wants to please their friendly giant. If a child is displaying a willful spirit where did that spirit come from?
Could it have come from the spirit of a parent or other willful spirits given influence over the child who want to impose their will on the child by the use of fear through physical violence by the infliction of emotional if not physical pain?
More about Golem.

Proverbs 13:24 is a part of a list and is preceded by Proverbs 13:23 "Much food [is in] the tillage of the poor: but there is [that is] destroyed for want of judgment."

This is a reference to the precept that was the sin of Sodom which is mentioned in Ezekiel 16:49 "Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy."

Giving without judgment weakens and even destroys people.[8]

If we go back to the word chasteneth in Proverbs 13:24 we see that it is normally defined instruction and correction.

The word טבשׁ shebet we see as rod has to do with the growth of a branch of a tree among many branches. All branches growing toward the light and each one growing in its own place guided by the example and firmness of others.

The rod of a shepherd is not used to beat the sheep into submission. It is a rod of guidance and direction to encourage the straight and safe path.[9]

In fact from over 4 decades of herding sheep on the high deserts I know that if you try to force sheep to go in one direction they will resist and try to go around you. The last thing you would want to try to do to get sheep to go down a narrow path is hit them with your shepherds rod. So why would you think it is a good idea to hit your children with a rod?

If someone has to spank their child that is often a sign that they have already failed or neglected their child somewhere or somehow as a parent.

What should you do to make your children want to do good:

  • Bribing your children with gifts makes them mercenaries or prostitutes.
  • Threatening violence to your children teaches them to intimidate or be intimidated by others.
  • Causing pain by forcing submission may teach them to surrender to whom ever carries the biggest stick.

It takes a diligent practice patience to raise children.

You are not your children's buddy but their parent. https://youtu.be/

In the video an Orangutan Tries to discipline her offspring who is determined to Escape Mom. Being a good parent takes time, sacrifice, patience and love We need to be consistent, fair and firm, drawing clear lines for moral behavior for all children. When a monkey shows better parenting skills than a human-being there is a problem. Time 2:30
  • "Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it." Proverbs 22:6

The word "train up" is from a Hebrew word[10] that is more often translated "dedicate". People do not know what it means to be a parent.

Being a parent is a full time job that requires complete dedication of time and resources. While as a parent I had a right to spank my children I almost never found any need to do so.

When they were disobedient or simply could not control their emotions, I attended to the matter by restriction with holding them or confining them with consistency. This was, for the most part, when they were very small. This involved many hours and much sacrifice but that is what love is all about.

They were home taught and taught what was acceptable and not acceptable early on and again consistently.

Most parents whose children are out of control there is a reason for that. Parents need to be dedicated parents but unfortunately many do not know what that means, This is a good reason to gather with other parents and learn from them, from their success and from their failures.

The family of man

What is true in a family applies when you seek to form a congregation based on the love of Christ.

It is hard to win the trust of sheep but with consistent guidance of love and patience it can be done.


We cannot force compliance to Christ by forcing others to comply with what we believe is doctrine. We exercise faith by doing all we do in love.

I will not spare the rod of a good shepherd.

Pharaoh had a sheep crook and a whip. The sheep crook was to guide the people but the whip was to punish or discipline or fire people like Jesus did in the temple.
  • Revelation 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.[11]

Most of us do wrong by habit and of course you can train people to do good by forcing them to do it over and over again and by fear of punishment. But to win the hearts of people according to the ways of Christ, our tactics and policies must be His tactics and policies. That does not mean that a parent or even an adult may never use force to obtain compliance what righteousness is at stake and certainly not when safety of others is at stake. You may. But force is not used to win the hearts and minds of the people. And we need to desire that our children hear the wisdom of Christ in us.



Habitually returning to error or the habit of sin is usually the result of Trauma where there is a part of our heart and mind that has been stunted or closed off. It becomes like a dark corner or room in our minds from which evil may influence us or those around us.

People need compassion and love which often includes forgiveness and patience to remove the influence coming from the dark trauma in our hearts or the hearts of others. Sin can be nothing more than Addiction.

From the beginning God has wanted us to choose to follow Him and walk with Him. He did not want brother to rule over brother like Cain and Nimrod by force. He wants us to follow the ways of Abraham, Gideon, Moses and Jesus Christ.

  • "I am the good shepherd, and know my [sheep], and am known of mine." John 10:14

We must choose to follow the narrow path He leads us on. This is not an intellectual choice but a spiritual one. Many will not understand this because they live in the tree of knowledge and imagine they make choices by their own reason.

Somewhere in our spirit our pride or humility will filter the evidence of truth, accepting or rejecting that validity and reason of God and His divine will. Our intellect is often used as a rod to steer us away from the inconvenient truths that God has laid before us.

Many who we have loved will not love Christ enough to hear His whole gospel. Anything less than the whole gospel is a lie.

The truth is there are many people who think they are Christ-loving, Bible-honoring, grace filled, gospel-preaching, self-debasing, peace-loving believers but are not. You know they are not because they do not do what Christ said to do. In fact they are doing exactly what the Pharisees did.

In truth most modern day people who call themselves christian, are not serving God but are by their ways and means serving the ends of the Fathers of the world and Satan.

How do they do that?

They fail to be the social welfare of the people according to the perfect law of liberty by providing for one another through true love and pure religion that is not a snare or a trap. Even more, their ministers encourage and condone the people to go pray to the men who call themselves benefactors and exercise authority one over the other by offering a welfare that is a snare and a trap. This action entangles them in the bondage of the world again.

In order to keep the people under a strong delusion of false salvation these benefactors will need some ministers and priests out there doing good works to keep fooling many. They need to present some form of godliness but will be denying the power thereof.

2 Timothy 3:5 "Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away."

They will need to keep pointing to the few quotes that talk about belief in Christ and that supposedly being all you have to do. They will never point to all those places where He instructs a person to...

If you really believed, all these things would be evidence of your faith. But that is not what we see in the modern Church.

Do we believe in what Jesus said?

Or do we believe in the doctrines of men gleaned from parts of the gospel?

The true ministers of God know the love and patience of God and know that he has sent them to rebuke those who think they are Christ-loving, Bible-honoring, grace gospel-preaching, self-debasing, peace-loving believers. Those people are actually allowing, promoting and condoning the same Corban of the Pharisees along with many other "damnable heresies" and delivering the people back into the yoke of bondage of the world.

Many preachers water down the gospel to keep their congregations whole. But we are not to be preaching our gospel but Christ's. The congregation must belong to Christ, not to the pastors. The ministers of God are supposed to be calling all to repentance, including those who think they are Christ-loving, Bible-honoring, grace gospel-preaching, self-debasing, peace-loving believers. Instead, those calling themselves ministers are going the way of the Pharisees and sending the people to pray to the men who call themselves benefactors but exercise authority.

We were directed not to be that way, and those who believe in Jesus should easily see that it is coveting your neighbor's goods to desire those benefits. This was and is the gospel of Christ and those who will not receive it are not Christ-loving or Bible-honoring and they will not be saved until they truly repent.

Many will not repent just as many Pharisees did not repent because they knew neither Moses nor Christ even though they thought they were Moses-loving, Torah-honoring, God-preaching, self-debasing, peace-loving Pharisees.

Yes! Many ministers will say they prophesied and preached in His name, and in His name cast out devils, and in His name have done many wonderful works and outwardly appear righteous unto men by their own standards, but within they are full of hypocrisy and iniquity... because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold and they will not sustain a society by faith, hope and charity.

Instead of doing it as Christ said and the early Church did, they will not attend to the weightier matters and they will not turn away from the Corban of the modern state Church which encourages all to pray to Caesar, Pharaoh and Nimrod to feed His sheep. Nor will they lift a finger to set the table of the Lord.
  1. 2 Timothy 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
  2. 07626 שֵׁבֶט‎ shebet [shay’-bet] from an unused root probably meaning to branch off ShinBeitTet; n m; [BDB-986b] [{See TWOT on 2314 @@ "2314a" }] AV-tribe 140, rod 34, sceptre 10, staff 2, misc 4; 190 appearances often including at least 4 different additional letters in as many as 30 different variations.
    1) rod, staff, branch, offshoot, club, sceptre, tribe
    1a) rod, staff
    1b) shaft (of spear, dart)
    1c) club (of shepherd’s implement)
    1d) truncheon, sceptre (mark of authority)
    1e) clan, tribe
    ש Shin Eternal Flame of Revelation, bound to the coal of righteousness, the Divine Essence. [sun... teeth... consume destroy] 300
    ב Beit Purpose: God Dwelling Place Below - from house or God's house here[household, in, into] 2
    ט Tet Introversion - The Concealed power of good or paradoxically evil [to twist a snake... wheel To surround (gestation)] 9
  3. Westminster Leningrad Codex
    חֹושֵׂ֣ךְ בְטֹו שֹׂונֵ֣א בְנֹ֑ו וְ֝אֹהֲבֹ֗ו שִֽׁחֲרֹ֥ו מוּסָֽר׃
  4. 4.0 4.1 07836 שָׁחַר‎ shachar [shaw-khar’] a primitive root; v; [BDB-l007b] [{See TWOT on 2369 }] AV-seek early 4, seek 2, diligently seek 2, betimes 1, misc 3; 12
    1) to seek, seek early or earnestly, look early or diligently for
    1a) (Qal) to look for diligently, seek
    1b) (Piel) to seek, seek early
  5. 04148 מוּסָר‎ muwcar [moo-sawr’] from 03256; n m; [BDB-416a] [{See TWOT on 877 @@ "877b" }] AV-instruction 30, correction 8, chasten 4, chastisement 3, check 1, bond 1, discipline 1, doctrine 1, rebuker 1; 50
    1) discipline, chastening, correction
    1a) discipline, correction
    1b) chastening
  6. 03256 יָסַר‎ yacar [yaw-sar’] a primitive root; v; [BDB-415b] [{See TWOT on 877 }] AV-chastise 21 instruct 8, correct 7, taught 2, bound 1, punish 1, reformed 1, reproveth 1, sore 1; 43
    1) to chasten, discipline, instruct, admonish
    1a) (Qal)
    1a1) to chasten, admonish
    1a2) to instruct
    1a3) to discipline
    1b) (Niphal) to let oneself be chastened or corrected or admonished
    1c) (Piel)
    1c1) to discipline, correct
    1c2) to chasten, chastise
    1d) (Hiphil) to chasten
    1e) (Nithpael) to teach
  7. 04294 ^הטמ^ matteh \@mat-teh’\@ or (fem.) ^הטמ^ mattah \@mat-taw’\@ from 05186; n m; AV-tribe 182, rod 52, staff 15, staves 1, tribe + 04294 1; 251 1) staff, branch, tribe 1a) staff, rod, shaft 1b) branch (of vine) 1c) tribe 1c1) company led by chief with staff (originally)
  8. Plutarch, Polybius, Benefactors
  9. Psalms 23:4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou [art] with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
  10. 02596 ^ךנח^ chanak \@khaw-nak’\@ a primitive root; v; AV-dedicate 4, train up 1; 5
    1) to train, dedicate, inaugurate
    1a) (Qal)
    1a1) to train, train up
    1a2) to dedicate
  11. Proverbs 9:8 Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee. Proverbs 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.