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V1-2 Jesus did not stay in town in the night. But he came back in the day time and explained things in the temple. And by verse 20 he is in the gazophulakion which is the public treasuries.[1]
When he "sat down"[2] The word is καθίσας (kathisas) — Occurrences 11 times
Mark 9:35 
..."he sat down"" to make rulings.
Mark 12:41 
Jesus sat over against the treasury[1]
Luke 5:3 
 And he sat down, and taught
Luke 14:28 ... 31
 sitteth not down first, and counteth... and consulteth
Luke 16:6 
bill, and sit down quickly, and write
John 8:2 
him; and he sat down, and taught them.
Acts 12:21 
in royal apparel, sat upon his throne,
Acts 25:6 
 and the next day sitting on
Acts 25:17 
 on the morrow I sat on
Ephesians 1:20 
 the dead, and set [him] at his own
V3 The scribes and Pharisees brought a woman taken in adultery to tempt Christ. Of course Jesus knew that stoning women by hitting them in the head with rocks for adultery was not Moses way anymore than bread without yeast or dunking people in water. If that were true why did he even talk to the woman at the well?
V11 So he would not condemn[3] her for he knew the weightier matters include mercy.
V12 He is the light and if you follow the way of light the darkness will be nowhere in the temple of the Holy Spirit.[4] If light be in you there will be no abode in you for the things of darkness. Those who love the darkness hate the light and will leave like the men who could not stone the woman. To judge[5] by the flesh, by the ĺetter, by their own will, and not by the Holy Spirit you usurp God and the light and your judgement will not be true.[6]
“‭79 To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.” Luke 1:79
Can you clean in the dark? “‭25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. ‭26 Thou blind Pharisee, [7]
V28, 30 Jesus speak of doing nothing but what is taught by and pleasing to the Father and many will hear and follow him.
Questions
V31 Who is or is not a disciple? If you "continue in my logos, then are ye my disciples indeed" if you not, then how can be disciple?
If you are not continuing in His "word" then would it be possible that the "truth shall make you free"?
V33 They did not want tosee that they were back in the bondage of Egypt. Jesus says the are servants of sin. What sin?
Is desiring to eat at the tables of welfare provided through men who exercise authority one over the other like Herod and the Fathers of the earth who call themselves benefactors actually a snare and a trap?
If the reward of unrighteousness and the wages of unrighteousness are the same things then wouldn't having an appetite for or desiring those benefits and dainties of rulers at the expense of your neighbòr and their children be covetous practices and considered a sin?
Is not covetousness also idolatry?[8]
V38 Abraham left city-states like Ur and Haran and built the altars of clay and stone to recieve the freewill offerings of the people?
V39 Are you doing the works of Abraham or do you go to the altars of public religion with its legal charity and bite one another through the covetous practices of the corban of Herod and the Pharisees which makes the word of God to none effect?
V43 "Why do ye not understand my speech?"
V47 He that is of God heareth God’s words God's Logos.
Those Jews could not Hear nor understand the right Reason of the logos of the Father of Christ because they sat in darkness like many modern Christians do today. Have you been under a stronge delusion and are you now in need of repentance?
V53 People think we must believe in the preexisting of Jesus who was the logos of the "I am" of God made flesh. But they miss the devil of these men who were making the "word of God" to none effect with their Corban.
V59 They desired to actually put to death Jesus. They had become perfect savages because of the years of legal charity through the Corban of the Pharisees.
The put to death lie, the delusion of Leaven and many other false teachings allowed the people to oppress[9] one another with covetous practices through civil rulers who exercise authority one over the other which was idolatry.[8] Their Corban was funded by a corvee system where the dainties of legal charity were the bait in a snare and a trap of that should have been for their welfare. The baptism of Herod was returning the people to the bondage of Egypt and was not exercising love for neighbor which had been required by Moses. True fervent charity through loving one another, laying down your life for one another which is the bread of eternal life.
54V you say you know the father
55V "I know him, and keep his saying."
58V "Before Abraham was, I am."
59V They wanted to put to dearh Jesus with stones he "hid himself" "through the midst of them".


The mount of Olives. 

1 ¶ Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.

2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down[2], and taught them.

Woman judged

3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,

4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.

5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.

Without sin

7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.

9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned[3] thee?

11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn[3] thee: go, and sin no more.

I Am the Light of the World

12 ¶ Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

13 The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record[10] of thyself; thy record is not true.

14 Jesus answered and said unto them, I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.

15 Ye judge[5] after the flesh; I judge[5] no man.

16 And yet if I judge[5] , my judgment[11] is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.

17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.

18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.

19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.

20 These words spake Jesus in the treasury[1], as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come.

Ye cannot come

21 ¶ Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.

22 Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.

23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.

26 I have many things to say and to judge[5] of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.

27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.

28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.

30 As he spake these words, many believed on him.

The Truth Will Set You Free

31 ¶ Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

33 They answered him, We be Abraham’s seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.

36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

37 I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word[12] hath no place in you.

You Are of Your Father the Devil

38 ¶ I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

46 ¶ Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

47 He that is of God heareth God’s words[13]: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Before Abraham Was, I Am

48 Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?

49 Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.

50 And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth.[5]

51 ¶ Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.

52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.

53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?

54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:

55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.

56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?

58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.



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  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1049 ~γαζοφυλάκιον~ gazophulakion \@gad-zof-oo-lak’-ee-on\@ from 1047 and 5438; ; n n AV-treasury 5; 5
    1) a repository of treasure, especially of public treasure, a treasury
    It is used to describe the apartments constructed in the courts of the temple, in which the not only the sacred offerings and things needful for the service were kept, but in which the priests, etc, dwelt: #Ne 13:7; of the sacred treasury in which not only treasure but also public records were stored, and the property of widows and orphans was deposited. Josephus speaks of treasuries in the women’s court of Herod’s temple. In the N.T. near the treasury seems to used of that receptacle mentioned by the rabbis to which were fitted thirteen chests or boxes, i.e. trumpets, so called from their shape, and into which were put the contributions made voluntarily or paid yearly by the Jews for the service of the temple and the support of the poor.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2523 ~καθίζω~ kathizo \@kath-id’-zo\@ another (active) form for 2516 sit; v AV-sit 26, sit down 14, set 2, be set 2, be set down 2, continue 1, tarry 1; 48
    1) to make to sit down
    1a) to set, appoint, to confer a kingdom on one
    2) intransitively
    2a) to sit down
    2b) to sit
    2b1) to have fixed one’s abode
    2b2) to sojourn, to settle, settle down
    • καθίσας (kathisas) — 11 Occurrences
    Mark 9:35 
    ..."he sat down"" to make ruling.
    Mark 12:41 
    Jesus sat over against the treasury[1]
    [[Luke 5]):3 
     And he sat down, and taught
    Luke 14:28 ... 31
     sitteth not down first, and counteth... and consulteth
    Luke 16:6 
    bill, and sit down quickly, and write
    John 8:2 
    him; and he sat down, and taught them.
    Acts 12:21 
    in royal apparel, sat upon his throne,
    Acts 25:6 
     and the next day sitting on
    [[Acts 25]):17 
     on the morrow I sat on
    Ephesians 1:20 
     the dead, and set [him] at his own
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 2632 κατακρίνω katakrinō kat-ak-ree'-no from 2596 and 2919, From kata and krino; to judge against, i.e. Sentence -- condemn, damn. Verb; TDNT entry: 18:51,5
    1 to give judgment against, to judge worthy of punishment, to condemn
    a. by one's good example to render another's wickedness the
    b. more evident and censurable
    2. to judge against, that is, sentence: - condemn, damn.
  4. “‭16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? ‭17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.” 1 Corinthians 3:16-17
    “‭19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? ‭20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.” 1 Corinthians 6:19-20
    “‭16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. ‭17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, ‭18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.” 2 Corinthians 6:16-18
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 5.5 2919 ~κρίνω~ krino \@kree’-no\@ perhaps a primitive word; TDNT-3:921,469; {See TDNT 412} v AV-judge 88, determine 7, condemn 5, go to law 2, call in question 2, esteem 2, misc 8; 114
    1) to separate, put asunder, to pick out, select, choose
    2) to approve, esteem, to prefer
    3) to be of opinion, deem, think, to be of opinion
    4) to determine, resolve, decree
    5) to judge
    5a) to pronounce an opinion concerning right and wrong
    5a1) to be judged, i.e. summoned to trial that one’s case may be examined and judgment passed upon it
    5b) to pronounce judgment, to subject to censure
    5b1) of those who act the part of judges or arbiters in matters of common life, or pass judgment on the deeds and words of others
    6) to rule, govern
    6a) to preside over with the power of giving judicial decisions, because it was the prerogative of kings and rulers to passjudgment
    7) to contend together, of warriors and combatants
    7a) to dispute
    7b) in a forensic sense
    7b1) to go to law, have suit at law
  6. “‭23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! ‭24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.” Matthew 6:23-24
  7. Of this world
    “‭23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.” John 8:23
    “‭9 Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.” John 11:9
    “‭31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.” John 12:31
    “‭1 Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.” John 13:1
    “‭1 Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.” John 13:1
    “‭30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me. ‭31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.” John 14:30-31
    “‭11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.” John 16:11
    “‭36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.” John 18:36
    “‭19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.” 1 Corinthians 3:19,
    “‭10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. ‭11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. ‭12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? ‭13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.” 1 Corinthians 5:10-13
    “‭31 And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away.” 1 Corinthians 7:31...
  8. 8.0 8.1 Covetousness is idolatry
    Colossians 3:5 "Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: 6 For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:"
    Ephesians 5:5 "For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God."
    1 Corinthians 5:10 "Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat."
  9. Not oppressor
    Exodus 20:2 "I [am] the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage."
    Exodus 22:21 "Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt."
    Exodus 23:9 "Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger: for ye know the heart of a stranger, seeing ye were strangers in the land of Egypt."
    Leviticus 19:33 "And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him."
    Deuteronomy 10:19 "Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt."
    Deuteronomy 24:14 "Thou shalt not oppress an hired servant [that is] poor and needy, [whether he be] of thy brethren, or of thy strangers that [are] in thy land within thy gates:"
    Jeremiah 7:6 "[If] ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, and shed not innocent blood in this place, neither walk after other gods to your hurt:"
    Zechariah 7:10 "And oppress not the widow, nor the fatherless, the stranger, nor the poor; and let none of you imagine evil against his brother in your heart."
    Malachi 3:5 "And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in [his] wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger [from his right], and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts."
  10. 3140 ~μαρτυρέω~ martureo \@mar-too-reh’-o\@ from 3144; v AV-bear witness 25, testify 19, bear record 13, witness 5, be a witness 2, give testimony 2, have a good report 2, misc 11; 79
    1) to be a witness, to bear witness, i.e. to affirm that one has seen or heard or experienced something, or that he knows it because taught by divine revelation or inspiration
    1a) to give (not to keep back) testimony
    1b) to utter honourable testimony, give a good report
    1c) conjure, implore
  11. 2920 κρίσις krisis [kree’-sis] perhaps a primitive word; n f; TDNT-3:941,469; [{See TDNT 412 }] AV-judgment 41, damnation 3, accusation 2, condemnation 2; 48
    1) a separating, sundering, separation
    1a) a trial, contest
    2) selection
    3) judgment
    3a) opinion or decision given concerning anything
    3a1) esp. concerning justice and injustice, right or wrong
    3b) sentence of condemnation, damnatory judgment, condemnation and punishment
    4) the college of judges (a tribunal of seven men in the several cities of Palestine; as distinguished from the Sanhedrin, which had its seat at Jerusalem)
    5) right, justice
  12. 3056 ~λόγος~ logos \@log’-os\@ from 3004; n m AV-word 218, saying 50, account 8, speech 8, Word (Christ) 7, thing 5, not tr 2, misc 32; 330
    1) of speech
    1a) a word, uttered by a living voice, embodies a conception or idea
    2) its use as respect to the MIND alone
    3) In John, denotes the essential Word of God, Jesus Christ, the personal wisdom and power in union with God, his minister in creation and government of the universe, the cause of all the world’s life both physical and ethical, which for the procurement of man’s salvation put on human nature in the person of Jesus the Messiah, the second person in the Godhead, and shone forth conspicuously from His words and deeds.
    • 4487 ρημα rhema can mean word or saying.
  13. 4487 ῥῆμα rhema [hray’-mah] from 4483 Rheo speak; n n; TDNT-4:69,505; [{See TDNT 431 }] AV-word 56, saying 9, thing 3, no thing + 3756 1, not tr 1; 70
    1) that which is or has been uttered by the living voice, thing spoken, word
    1a) any sound produced by the voice and having definite meaning
    1b) speech, discourse
    1b1) what one has said
    1c) a series of words joined together into a sentence (a declaration of one’s mind made in words)
    1c1) an utterance
    1c2) a saying of any sort as a message, a narrative
    1c2a) concerning some occurrence
    2) subject matter of speech, thing spoken of
    2a) so far forth as it is a matter of narration
    2b) so far as it is a matter of command
    2c) a matter of dispute, case at law
    • distinctly different than the word logos.