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Not Real Money

Do you think this is real money?

A Dollar was a coin of 90% pure silver (412.5 grains in weight).

The term DOLLAR was “The monetary unit or standard of value of the United States and Canada. By the term Dollar in the United States is intended the coined dollar of the United States, a certain quantity in weight and fineness of gold or silver…” The Century Dictionary, Published 1914.

A United States Silver Certificates stated: “This certifies that there is on deposit in the Treasury of the United States of America (denomination) Dollar(s) in silver payable to the bearer on demand.”

When United States Notes were still being issued they use to say “The United States of America will pay to the bearer on demand (denomination) Dollar(s).”

412.5 grains silver

Of course a NOTE was not a DOLLAR. A note is at best a promise to pay.

Someone said "Money can be anything, even paper." He actually thinks that "Stocks represent the real wealth, production based on consumption by people. They are the new gold."

Nothing can be farther from the truth. Stocks are seldom valued based on assets or actual productivity. They are all valued in dollars which further clouds the issue.

The term dollar was originally used as a measure of weight.[1]

Cashless Society

Why the whole banking system is a scam - Godfrey Bloom MEP...It has been a shift in our thinking that has allowed things like "fractional reserve banking", "quantitative easing", central banks and "deposit guarantees". https://youtu.be/hYzX3YZoMrs _Time 2:18

The term cash a century ago did not include notes created by a bank. Store keepers who posted a note saying "cash only" would not accept banknotes of any kind but only coin as payment.[2] Cash originally meant an actual coin with a weight of some precious or semi precious metal.

In the late 16th century the term actually denoted a box for coins. It was derived from the Old French casse and Middle French caisse "money box" or Italian cassa meaning ‘box’, or even from the Latin term capsa which was often used to refer to boxes smaller than a shoe-box. By the 1590s the term came to mean a "money box" where coins were kept but also "money in hand, coin".

Although the term cash likely had another source which also promoted its use and added to its evolution in society it too was from a word meaning coins. The term cash was also derived from Tamil (காசு) which was the official language of both Singapore and Sri Lanka and brought to Great Britain and the world by the East India Company. The word kāsu meant a coin.

While promises to pay in the form of notes of paper or clay have been around since Babylon the payment was always made with something of value. Venetian merchants started using paper bills, instructing their banker to make payments in amounts of silver or gold. For centuries the term cash as a verb meant to convert a paper bills, note, cheque or check into coin or bullion by weight.

To make a coin could also include a stamped value implied or imposed by a government rather than a mere weight or measure. This is what coining money eventually came to mean. The stamped value was not always just based on actual content of a coin. Blaming what is commonly used for money for the problems produced by people choosing to not use Real Money which is simply "just weights and measures" as advised by God is foolish. [3]. The Roman silver denarii eventually became an iron coin stamped with an imposed value which led to runaway inflation because when the silver was gone the real value was gone. A "just weights and measures" economy only uses what could be called a commodity money.

The Temple of Juno Moneta is considered to be another "pagan temple" but it was simply a place where coins used as money were minted by the government.

The Temple of Juno Moneta (Latin: Templum Iunonis Monetæ) was an ancient Roman temple that stood on the Arx or the citadel on the Capitoline Hill overlooking the Roman government Forum. The word Money is from a Middle English word from Old French moneie, from Latin moneta ‘mint, money’. It was an original title of the goddess Juno, in whose temple the money of Rome was minted. These coins had some value at first and the minting was merely stamping what would become their "legal tender" value.

Today, money is defined as "a current medium of exchange in the form of coins and banknotes; coins and banknotes collectively."

Notes and iron or base metal coins may have no real value and certainly not the value stamped or printed on them and therefore are not real money but stuff posing as money.

This is not real money.... Those are debt notes. There is interest being charged on each one in circulation. They also have "no value" according to the Federal Reserve website. They are the ultimate SPAM. Stuff Posing As Money.

They are not really money but are legal tender.


The term legal tender is a euphemism of modern thinking that allows something to become used as if it was value but is in fact nothing more than a substitute for value. It has been a shift in our thinking that has allowed things like "fractional reserve banking", "quantitative easing", central banks and "deposit guarantees".

The problems in the world today run so deep that the truth can hardly be considered much less understood. The solution is the same as it was 2000 years ago but to see it we would have to see out own problems. Rome faced this same problem and eventually collapsed but the early Christians had begun to do something fundamentally different and not only survived but thrived. They had formed a network of people who were learning to care about each other, the truth and righteousness as much as they cared about themselves. That network of freely assembled people functioned by Faith, Hope and Charity through the Perfect law of liberty and no longer depended upon Benefactors who exercised authority to provide benefits for members of their society. They learned to provide for each other in a Daily ministration of Pure Religion.

Mammon, NN Video Series:3-10 4:22

They lived in the world but not of the world. Rome had gone from a Republic to a Socialist State with the Emperator as the Father of the nation and Benefactor of society. Because of its unrighteous Mammon it had literally become a cashless society.

People fear a future cashless society but in truth they are already there. The problem goes much deeper. We have become a soulless society where we are Biting one another in a thousand ways and have been devoured by our Covetous Practices.

Many warned of these practices from Polybius to John the Baptist and the Prophets of Christ himself. While some today may try to avoid the benefits in order to claim their freedom they do little to become benefactors of society who exercise Charity like some nations and people of the past. They remain Slothful and therefore should be under Tribute.

The early Christians were not like Modern Christians but actually were striving to follow what Christ said to do. They were Doers of the word. They did not depend on the Pagan Temples which provided many of the services of that pagan government of Rome. They provided for one another in a living network and attended to the Weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith which include caring for the needs of our neighbors and the widows and orphans of our society through Pure Religion in matters of health, education, and welfare. We are NOT to provide for the needy of society through the Covetous Practices and the men who call themselves benefactors but who exercise authority one over the other like the socialists do.

The Way of Christ was like neither the way of the world of Rome nor the governments of the gentiles who depend on those fathers of the earth through force, fear and fealty who deliver the people back in bondage again like they were in Egypt. Christ's ministers and true Christians do not depend upon systems of social welfare that force the contributions of the people like the corban of the Pharisees which made the word of God to none effect. Many people have been deceived to go the way of Balaam and the Nicolaitan and out of The Way of Christ and have become workers of iniquity.

The Christian conflict with Rome in the first century Church appointed by Christ was because they would not apply to the fathers of the earth for their free bread but instead relied upon a voluntary network providing a daily ministration to the needy of society through Faith, Hope, and Charity by way of freewill offerings of the people, for the people, and by the people through the perfect law of liberty in Free Assemblies according to the ancient pattern of Tuns or Tens as He commanded.

The modern Christians are in need of repentance.


"Follow me!" —Jesus the Christ.


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Legal Tender

The phrase “legal tender” is found on the paper currencies of the world, including those used by the United States. Blue-sealed certificates, red-sealed United States notes, or green-sealed Federal Reserve notes all state that they are “legal tender for all debts public and private.” For decades, these notes also stated that they were “redeemable in lawful money.” If they were redeemable in lawful money then it should be clear that they are not lawful money. Gold and silver are lawful money, which is used as “payment of debt.” Black’s Law Dictionary 3rd p 1079.

Legal tender is a legal offer in place of payment of debt and does not lawfully pay a debt. Although it may legally discharge debt, the tender or offer does not pay the debt at law. According to Stanek v. White. 172 Minn. 390, 215 N. W. 784. “There is a distinction between a debt discharged and one paid. When discharged the debt still exists, though divested of its character as a legal obligation during the operation of the discharge. Something of the original vitality of the debt continues to exist…”

Where does this debt continue? In the case of US federal reserve notes the debt is placed on the shoulders of the US citizens who are bound by that debt and required to work without pay. We call that income tax. That does not go to provide services but to pay off the debt note interest...

Stanek v. White goes on to say, “…which may be transferred, even though the transferee takes it subject to its disability incident to the discharge. The fact that it carries something which may be a consideration for a new promise to pay, so as to make an otherwise worthless promise a legal obligation, makes it the subject of transfer by assignment.”

Those notes are partly why you do not own your land, your labor or your children which are now bound in a perpetual cycle of debt.

Inflation Causes

Is Resistance futile? Freedom does not come from the presence or absence of money but of course there are many kinds of money. What most people "see posing as money" today is not money but debt used as if it was money. Since it has no "present value" but only an imagined value it is not really money. Money, even "stuff posing as money" is not evil. Greed, selfishness and wantonness are evil and they dwell in the hearts of men not in dead things. These things do not dwell in money nor "stuff posing as money". To focus on the money as the problem is a distraction from the real problem. The kind of money used in the world today is a symptom, a product of greed, selfishness and wantonness. Get rid of money and you will have just as much greed, selfishness and wantonness. Seek instead the cure.

People see inflation increasing and it will likely get worse, much worse.

It cannot be stopped without disastrous results and it is bringing disaster with it.

Many will suffer and chaos will reign.

Some are trying to implement alternative money plans now and have asked me to join with them to implement those alternatives.

People have lots of different ideas.

The problem goes much deeper than the money itself or what you use as money.

The money used today is more a symptom than the problem yet people do die every day from symptoms.

In the days when men were free money, like gold and silver, were produced by miners and silver and gold smiths. Other commodities were produced by the people. The people produced a real and valuable money supply. These mediums of exchange consisting of things with "present value" or "intrinsic value" are called Commodity money.

We should only use commodity money but that may not be practical in the modern society. We should seek another society and another way to live while we live in this world. We should start learning another way, The Way of Christ.

As this world society continues to break down opportunity to replace it with an alternative system will occur.

Most will seek worse solutions and suffer for it as they have done for centuries. The real problem is the greed, selfishness and wantonness. To point to money as the problem takes our mind off the real problem. It is always easier to point to other people, other things as the problem rather than examine ourselves.

Hope is found in those few who will come together to sustain local communities without any greed, selfishness and wantonness. That is not easy to find. It might be good to have a system of commodity money which is in essence barter, but that is not where we start. These alternatives will rise from the people to replace inflationary fiat currency now in circulation which will become as worthless in the minds of merchants as they are already decaying in value today. The illusion of value is all that sustains the present market and the fear to admit that modern currency has no present value.

Without present value in currency of exchange within a society there will be no liberty but the loss of liberty began with that greed, selfishness and wantonness dwelling in out hearts.

Some may encourage the use of commodities, things with present value, in exchange of goods and services when ever practical so that people could start learning the honorable skills required for liberty and art of networking in a way that would allow an alternative to become manifest during a time of economic crises or collapse.

Most people will not act or prepare or have the moral character to do what is required as a society to overcome such events peaceably. Te lack of value in our money comes from the lack of value in our own souls and hearts and minds. We need to repent, change the thinking of our minds. We need to seek the kingdom of God with all our hearts. We need to seek the righteousness of God with our very souls.

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Utter Money

Of course US Persons cannot intend to establish something that could be used for or as current money they could be sent to jail for five years and or fined.

You can see because of 18 USC § 486 - Uttering coins of gold, silver or other metal

"Whoever, except as authorized by law, makes or utters or passes, or attempts to utter or pass, any coins of gold or silver or other metal, or alloys of metals, intended for use as current money, whether in the resemblance of coins of the United States or of foreign countries, or of original design, shall be fined under this title [1] or imprisoned not more than five years, or both." http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/486

Some people are looking for alternative currencies because the ones in circulation seem to be about to fail.

Some have tried to create liberty dollars with disastrous effects that I warned them about but they would not listen to those warnings because they wanted to believe in their solution.

Turning a blind eye to the weakness and error of their position will get you in trouble almost every time.

It was obvious they were trying to create an alternative currency which will be rejected if successful.

That is illegal if you are using similar or same terms used in or by the present currency makers of the realm of the "world".

The Reece Committee

Introduction by Edward Griffin interviews of 83 year old Norman Dodd (complete interview) in 1982 - explains the infiltration of banking and public education system by Tax Exempt Foundations 52:+ min

“And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, ....” Revelation 20:8

The Reece Committee uncovered a well-financed effort to change the way Americans viewed History that began in the early part of the 1900s.

4th Audiofrom Schools as Tools
This is not a new problem but the scale is definitely of historical significance. A number of years ago a congressional investigation uncovered some facts about the manipulation of the United States government and the educational system by major philanthropic organizations. These “charitable institutions” formed a powerful and influential network that change the way Americans viewed history.

Some may not wish to call it a conspiracy but the truth is often stranger than fiction. It is often more comfortable to believe in the lie than to admit that we are living our lives based on a lie, that we have been deceived and that we are letting others deceive our children.

Norman Dodd was the chief investigator for the Reece Committee in 1953 which uncovered evidence that there had been a conspiracy to alter the way Americans view history by changing the content in text books available in schools.

Dodd had worked in the elite banking institutions in his early professional life but he had made a moral decision to not play the game.

He was hired to investigate the un-American activities of large endowment foundations who most people could only imagine as institutions of charitable benevolence.

Dodd quoted Rowan Gunthor, the President of the Ford Foundation, who stated that they operated under directives to “use our grant-making power so to alter life in the United States so it can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union.”

Dr. Joseph Johnson at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace permitted Dodd to examine the fifty years of handwritten minutes to their meetings. Dodd sent a well-educated Lawyer by the name of Catherine Casey to examine the records.

Dodd realized that Johnson did not know what was in the records and he sent Catherine because she was skeptical of any wrongdoing on the part of these multi-million dollar tax-exempt philanthropic organizations.

Her mind and her life were changed as she read the minutes of 1908 which discussed war as the best way to alter the lives and thinking of the American people. In 1909, it was discussed how to involve the U.S. in a war, deciding that control of the State Department was essential.

Later, after America entered WWI a message was dispatched to President Wilson to discourage an early end to the war. This could explain Wilson’s interest in the UN (then the League of Nations), Federal Reserve and the income tax and his final statement:

“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above a whisper in condemnation of it.”[5]

After the War, it was determined that the key was the alteration in the teaching of American History. Noted and respected Historians like Charles and Mary Beard were approached but they rejected the overtures of this controlling benevolent enterprise.

The Guggenheim Foundation, on the other hand, agreed to supply fellowships to handpicked historians who began to write history with a new slant and delusive perception. The books, underwritten by these altruistic organizations were quickly picked up by schools whose economic bottom line often determined the quality of the curriculum.

“God made the Idiot for practice, and then He made the School Board.” —Mark Twain

See Norman Dodd complete interview.

Audio series

Article Schools as Tools

1st Audio
http://www.hisholychurch.net/kkvv/x9folder/140808educate01p1.mp3

2nd Audio
http://www.hisholychurch.net/kkvv/x9folder/140809educate02p2lr.mp3

3rd Audio
http://www.hisholychurch.net/kkvv/x9folder/140809educate03p2-3.mp3

4th Audio
http://www.hisholychurch.net/kkvv/x9folder/140809educate04p-3.mp3

5th Audio
http://www.hisholychurch.net/kkvv/021/141022education05studies.mp3

Bitcoin

While the currency of the world drives men into the bondage of debt many alternative currencies are not much better for other reasons.

Bitcoin is trying to create a "cryptocurrency". http://bitcoinmagazine.com/6939/seans-outpost-announces-satoshi-forest/ It will be scrutinized and possibly even sanitized by the powers that be...

So what should we consider before using this electronic currency. Questions will arise is it legal, biblical, moral?

First, Bitcoin is not a "just weight or measure" and has no intrinsic value or even substance. It is highly speculative and dependent on a "digital world".

Also many are suggesting its use as "current money". And some may use it to avoid taxes.

Just weights and measures are a "golden opportunity."

Bitcoin is not dependable substance which puts it on the same footing as all the other digital accounts we have in the World today.

This is especially true if there is a real melt down of the economy. Bitcoin can disappear in the twinkling of the eye.

Is that a reason not to use them? All currencies are subject to failure. It is not a weight that can be measured but a market value based on digital entries that have limited available amount.

This limitation, like gold and silver in the ground, adds to its value because as more people seek to use them the demand drives the value up.

Unlike gold and silver and other metals no matter how hard you work you can only produce so many.

Federal reserve notes and the digital transactions of account entries have no real value either and can lose all their "apparent" value in the twinkling of an eye.

IN FACT THE APPARENT VALUE DROPS WITH THE INCREASE OF SUPPLY such as we see with catch phrases like quantitative easing.

Options

But there are many alternatives to money commonly used today just like during depressions, bank failures, war, even in prisons things like cigarettes can become a monetized means of exchange. The first form of money was commodities, things of present value where you are. The first market was barter and trade.

There are numerous options for alternative money forms and some are better than others. Grain, whiskey, toilet paper have all substituted for coin and cash.

But how does one trade services?

And aren't there a lot of limitations?

The limitations decrease as trust grows.

Gold and silver have an intrinsic substance and weight. They are a commodity. But where does real Value come from?

They have a limited supply and are the product of labor.

Men can speculate which affects value but there are limits and they are real and can be weighed and measured.

So the real question is how does one increase trust?

But there are laws for trying to supplant or compete with existing currency and or do so to get around tax liability with alternate trading currency.

Don't forget USC 18 486... or laws concern conspiracy to defraud.

So what should we use?

For the short term our options are open if we are open to seek to learn real trust within a viable society based on mutual love and honor.

The short term may be all we have in some cases but we must walk in the long term approach. The question is what direction do we want to go.

Early Christians established a viable network that was called a "Republic" by Edward Gibbons who chronicled the decline and fall of the Roman Empire. Christians formed a social network that sustained them through that Roman collapse. Although emperors feared them because of their "union and discipline" their success was dependent upon the honor and trust found in the virtuous bonds of their society and their natural ability because of their governing structure to fade underground and become mobile in a living network overnight.

Repentance is about direction and we have all gone a long way down the wrong road.

Nations have been enslaved and brought into that bondage of debt common among every nation today. Christ had a way and while he mentioned money, justice and mercy and the bible talks about unjust weights and measures the real commodity that sets you free is not regulated by commerce.

Remember Christ's command Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar’s, but also to render "unto God the things which be God’s."

Caesars come and go and We must learn the ways of God and his natural ways of honor and trust, righteousness and law. Did not Jesus tell us to tend to the weightier matters of law?[6]

Are we told to "Owe no man any thing"? [7]

How is it love to drive one another into debt by coveting our neighbors goods in hope of personal benefit. ls it because there is no other currency or because we are bankrupt of the currency of love?

There are others who are seeking to use existing coins such as pre-1964 silver which would be existing coin. Still any attempt to defraud the government of the world of revenue by the use of even legitimate coin has brought prosecution and ruin for many.

It is the bonds of the Network that bring real wealth and viability.

But purchasing things from afar from strangers with substance creates a problem of logistics. How do you deliver funds to someone on the other side of the country with nothing but hope they will reciprocate with sending your the commodity your seek to purchase.

The truth is knowledge and skill to produce or utilize alternate currencies and coins could be critical in every declining economy but something is more important than the item to be used that must never be forgotten.

So the real problem is trust.

It is not the supply of money that is the problem. IT IS TRUST.

Who do we trust?

We have a shortage of trust in the world which is a shortage of honor.

So my recommendation is to find those who seek a moral money supply of just weights and measures and start gathering together in local groups. Start building the natural relationships of a society that build personal trust, integrity and honor.

Everyone needs to take the time to turn around step by step and do something different. Not just seek to save themselves but to save others today and tomorrow.

They need to start the process back ....

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Footnotes

  1. from early Flemish or Low German daler, from German T(h)aler, short for Joachimsthaler, a coin from the silver mine of Joachimsthal (‘Joachim's valley’). Czech tolar, Hungarian tallér, Danish, Dutch, Swedish and Norwegian daler, Icelandic dalur, Ethiopian talari, Italian tallero, Polish talar. The term was later applied to a coin used in the Spanish American colonies, which was also widely used in the British North American colonies at the time of the American Revolution. The Continental Congress in 1786 adopted dollar as a unit when it set up the modern U.S. currency system, which was based on the suggestion of Gouverneur Morris (1782) as modified by Thomas Jefferson. None were circulated until 1794.
  2. “There is a distinction between a 'debt discharged' and a debt 'paid'. When discharged the debt still exists, though divested of its character as a legal obligation during the operation of the discharge. Something of the original vitality of the debt continues to exist which may be transferred, even though the transferee takes it subject to its disability incident to the discharge. The fact that it carries something which may be consideration for a new promise to pay, so as to make an otherwise worthless promise a legal obligation, makes it the subject of transfer by assignment.” Stanek v. White. 172. Minn. 390, 215 N. W.784. See http://www.hisholychurch.org/study/gods/cog11movma.php
  3. Leviticus 19:35 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment, in meteyard, in weight, or in measure. 36 Just balances, just weights, a just ephah, and a just hin, shall ye have: I am the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt.
    Proverbs 16:11 A just weight and balance are the LORD’S: all the weights of the bag are his work.
  4. Matthew 20:25-26 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
    Mark 10:42-43 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:
    Luke 22:25-26 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.
  5. In 1913, Woodrow Wilson, in his book “The New Freedom.”
  6. Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ... have omitted the weightier [matters] of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
  7. Romans 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.