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[[Proverbs 6]]:6  Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise: Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler, Provideth her meat in the summer, and gathereth her food in the harvest.  How long wilt thou sleep, O sluggard? when wilt thou arise out of thy sleep?  Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep:  So shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth, and thy want as an armed man.
 
[[Proverbs 6]]:6  Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise: Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler, Provideth her meat in the summer, and gathereth her food in the harvest.  How long wilt thou sleep, O sluggard? when wilt thou arise out of thy sleep?  Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep:  So shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth, and thy want as an armed man.
  
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The truth can drive you mad,
Especially if it means that you've been had.

The word Guru is term for "teacher" or "master" in Sanskrit, particularly found in Indian religions. The Hindu guru-shishya is the oral tradition or religious doctrine or experiential wisdom transmitted from teacher to student.

The guru concept appears in many levels of society. If we imagine someone to be smarter or wiser than us, we may follow their suggestions or directives religiously. When we say religiously we are using the word religion in the sense of the definition "what we think about God or a god" or a supreme or superior being, rather than the primary sense of of the word religion being "how we perform our duty to God and our fellow man."

If we make or hold someone up as a guru or expert, what they say takes on a validity in our minds without actual proof or even verification. It can take on an almost sacred aura of validity which may be entirely unwarranted. While a guru may be defined as a teacher or guide that you trust, they may not all be as trustworthy as we would like to believe.

To hold someone up as an authority on any subject is to give them a position of power and power corrupts. Yet, such positions of power and influence are commonly delegated emotionally, if not legally, by people who claim they want to be free despite the truth that such positions of power are, in fact, every dictator's delight and every conman's communion or dream.

We see people joining several groups on the Network in order to be heard or be accepted. They want what they bring to be accepted. If it is not accepted then they feel that are not accepted because they identify with what they know...or think they know.

I personally know lots of people who have been held up as gurus and geniuses because they have lots of puzzle pieces. Yet they have no real solution. They often con people out of money and/or team up with people who promote their material for personal emotional support. Many of them are simply repeating things they have seen or been told and want to believe to be true. If you research their claims and information you can find holes in them that rival the Grand Canyon. But people will often cling to what they hear from these gurus with a religious fervor.

There is no perfect answer. The truth is we need to walk in the Spirit of Christ or we will fail.

I want to help those people too, even though they have not really taken the time to see the big picture and lots of the stuff they press will actually keep us from what will make a difference.

People feel a need to have others see their view—their stuff. There may be truth in it, but the Gospel—the whole gospel—is the answer.

We are going to have lots of people who come with their own agenda or baggage in the Network. We do not want to help them carry it. We want to help them set it down.

We need to keep focused so they do not distract the groups and congregants or scare people off with confusion and babble.

We recently had someone promoting UCC forms as a solution which produced an interesting discussion on one of the Network groups. While he was well informed, there were issues of disagreement.

Our intent is not to disagree and should not be to coerce the thinking of others but to merely bear witness to what we are seeing as the whole truth and congregate as a people to provide for it.

This may lead to a passionate discussion and no one should take offense at the free expression of ideas. But they often do.

I tried to explain that, though we may seem iconoclastic, our intention is to help, not hurt, the individual. Removing the splinters and beams from eyes so that we may see again can be painful.

Someone else posted some of Nasara's stuff[1] on a group about the Crown owning everything...

Someone tried to play it down and rightly so. There is some truth in it but, as we know or should know, this problem is rooted much deeper. This has been researched and is refuted at another webpage by Larry Becraft who I also know and yes he is a member of the BAR.

I also researched them too along with many other people.

I have personally known many of these "gurus", including George Gordon. Bob Holstrom, who dropped by and stayed with us every time he returned to the US.

But there are many more on the scene today, too numerous to mention here. [2] I do not even bother keeping a record of them all for there is an endless stream of theories. It is really not about the individuals but about the religious acceptance of what some say is true.

Many of these theories have shady origins and quickly fall apart under real investigation.

It is the religious fervor that is so hard to battle because people cling to arguments that place the blame on others rather than our own actions even though it is our actions that we can do the most about.

I know this Crown Templar stuff was promoted by David Merrill who has had a huge following off and on. He is also called David Merrill Van Pelt. He also goes by SFBFKADVP...

I have never met David but have seen his work for more than a decade. He lived in Colorado and was claiming to be a "private banker" who was feeding the Montana Freeman fiasco. And has been arrested in relation to some of the Freeman checks. He told me once he had a cure for SARS which ended up being the frequencies generated by his "paper work" with a special seal... I ran into him again on a email group that asked me to participate and, at the time, he had a case filed where he appeared to be suing Christ concerning his moped or scooter. I never could follow that. His mom is old, in her 80's now, and once got a court restraining order against him. I also tracked his address down to what seemed to be a private mental ward or what had been one at one time.

I will admit these guru constructs and theories may, at times, have some validity to them. And some of the gurus themselves are very smart. But it is wishful thinking to place blame on others. That does the most damage. There is no stronger chain than pride.

What does this mean?

It means there is a lot of stuff out there that is not entirely true and people cling to it with the same religious fervor as church-going religionists.

Once people identify with some of this stuff it is hard to show them anything that counters it and they become fixed in a rut of denial. It takes people down roads and paths from which there is often no return in this life. It squanders our time and resources. It has nothing to do with our personal repentance or virtue and is based on pointing out the secret conspiracy of other evil people rather than what we have done and been a part of.

Ultimately this is a spiritual journey. We need virtue to be free.

There is no value in being free if we do not use that freedom to tend to the weightier matters and righteousness. This means we need to focus on the simple directives of Christ. Love the God of righteousness and each other.

Do not let the truth—or what others think is true—make you angry. This is your quest for truth and righteousness. You cannot have one without the other and they always involve loving one another.

We need to start getting serious about being doers of the word... seeking the Kingdom of God... gathering together in the righteousness of God and the love, service and sacrifice of Christ for one another. All the other things will take care of themselves.

It is not about what you think but what you do.

Proverbs 6:6 Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise: Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler, Provideth her meat in the summer, and gathereth her food in the harvest. How long wilt thou sleep, O sluggard? when wilt thou arise out of thy sleep? Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep: So shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth, and thy want as an armed man.

Gal. 4:16: "Am I therefor made your enemy because I tell you the truth?"




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  1. The material was a copy-and-paste from this webpage although it can be found many places.
  2. : Many people deal with law, courts, rights and offer numerous solutions or procedures in dealing with what appears as injustice in the minds of the people. The strategies differ with the views and opinions of men and women like
    Then there the "unknown authors" or those theories with "many authors" or just many names like:
    • Steven AKA Steven Americo, James, Mark James
    • David Merrill Van Pelt AKA SFBFKADVP
    • The Matrix and the U.S. Constitution, supposedly written by an unknown author, is full of facts; but the author literally does not have a leg to stand on.
    • UCC Redempton advocates and many others with a plethora of Guru theories. They vary in a variety of critical points but all seem to fall short in their approach if we look at the few successes in man's quest for freedom as a society throughout the ages.



Primary author: Brother Gregory